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Yes, God knows 100% what his will ,will accomplish in the future. It cannot be stopped. God didn't make any mistakes. Its mortals who lack intelligence.
Well that supports what I said doesn't it? Your god knew from the start how everything was going to pan out...so the buck stops with him.
Well that supports what I said doesn't it? Your god knew from the start how everything was going to pan out...so the buck stops with him.
God knew what could occur if mortals ate of that tree--They did not touch it until lied to. And not one can say they would have later on--they do not know. The lie caused it.
Obviously, Satan told the truth because G-d agreed with him...
Berei**** - Genesis - Chapter 3
5 For God knows that on the day that you eat thereof, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like angels, knowing good and evil."
22 Now the Lord God said, "Behold man has become like one of us, having the ability of knowing good and evil, and now, lest he stretch forth his hand and take also from the Tree of Life and eat and live forever."
God did not want mortals to know Evil--The lie caused it. Yes now they know both sides and suffer and die. It was a serious mistake on Eve and Adams part not trusting God.
If everything turns out exactly the way G-d wants it down to the minutest detail, then I’d say that that is omniscience...
Where is that word in the bible? Otherwise one just assumes.
Why would God send Jonah to the assyrians if he knew the outcome already. Why would God threaten their destruction if he knew the outcome already?
The assyrians were absolutely wicked--They did many bad things to other mortals whom they deemed as enemies. They went out of their way to make mortals suffer as much as possible before killing them. They cut body parts off and watched mortals suffer. They were sick in the heart-yet God gave them a chance and they listened and turned.
God knew what could occur if mortals ate of that tree--They did not touch it until lied to. And not one can say they would have later on--they do not know. The lie caused it.
Why didn’t eve drop dead like god said would happen?
Then Why does Michael battle satan and his angels kick them out of heaven forever? Why when Jesus comes at Har-mageddon he captures satan and abysses him for 1000 years, then loosed for a little while then destroyed in the lake of fire?
Why would God let him loose again for a short time, after he restrained him in the pit for 1000yrs? Why didnt God or the angel Michael just destroy Satan, turn him to dust right there on the spot, if he was such a threat to mankind?
Letting him loose for a short time, implies Satan serves some greater purpose to God
I see, you don't understand the events of Eden.--- When satan told Eve they would become like God, knowing good and bad if they ate of that tree, he was not saying they would be God, he was saying. If we knew both sides ourselves, we could choose for ourselves the best path to lasting happiness, and we would not need to listen to Gods advice= a direct challenge to Gods universal sovereignty in front of all living beings( 2 mortals, millions of angels)--If he killed them on the spot, none of us ever would have been born. The seed would have died. So once and for all time. God is letting it be proved one way or the other. Do we as mortals need to listen to Gods advice by using our free will to choose that path. Or is satan correct and this system is the result.
God = mortals know only good. live in perfection, never sick, not aging like now, not dying.
Satan= choose our own path, get sick, suffer then die.
99% are choosing wrong.
I get what you are saying, but again, this is Satan, the angel that REBELLED against God and heaven, the angels of God fought a war in heaven, Satan and the 1/3 were booted out....so why would God even allow Satan to have the ability to influence adam and eve, or mankind in general?
Ok, satan...you are forced to leave heaven, you will eventually be chained up in the pit for 1000 yrs and then destroyed in the lake of fire for what you have done...but hey, until that time, you have ACCESS and ability to influence and seek to destroy as many humans as possible!...does that sound realistic? LOL
Satan has 99% beat--he gets them to partake off of his table-1Cor 10:21--God says if one does, they cannot partake off of his table--yet this is the majority of God worshippers path. They don't even know it because their blind guides never warned them what is on satans table.
In BOTH celebrations they hand to Jesus-The encyclopedias( fact of history) clearly show both are filled with pagan practices off the table of demons. I am glad my teachers cared enough to warn us. Why does one think Jesus said to be NO PART of this world.
And yet the Internet and forums are man made and are part of this world, as are bridges, planes and ice cream.
Then Why does Michael battle satan and his angels kick them out of heaven forever? Why when Jesus comes at Har-mageddon he captures satan and abysses him for 1000 years, then loosed for a little while then destroyed in the lake of fire?
That's just all talk. Empty threats and promises. No need for an omnipotent god to mess around with 'prophecies'.
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How is it that in Genesis, satan fathered a lie which this system is now the result> totally antichrist=99% of this world. Brought death and pain and suffering to all. You really think you know God? That is NOT Gods will.
Which lie exactly? Are you referring to the fruit of good and evil? The one that God put there? The serpent guy was telling the truth - it was the Garden of Eden god who lied (when he said they would surely die if they partook of the fruit - they didn't).
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God did not want mortals to know Evil--The lie caused it. Yes now they know both sides and suffer and die. It was a serious mistake on Eve and Adams part not trusting God.
Not trusting God is a mistake? Not trusting the one who put the tree in the Garden in the first place?
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