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Old 09-17-2018, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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No, not if their mother is Jewish. We have to remember that many feel Judaism is a race as well as a religion.
Jews for Jesus is a right-wing, evangelical Christian organisation.

 
Old 09-18-2018, 05:06 PM
 
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No, not if their mother is Jewish. We have to remember that many feel Judaism is a race as well as a religion.
80% to 90% are Christians that play Jew...Hardly any have Jewish mothers and their Rabbis are ordained by the SBC...
 
Old 09-19-2018, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Jews for Jesus are a right-wing evangelical Christian movement.
Yup, bunch of liars.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Modern Christianity has nothing to do with the original Christianity that was made up of Gentiles converts to Judaism.


Gentiles needed salvation because they were not a part of Israel, and so many Gentiles converted to Judaism through a betrothal to a Jew.


That was 2000 years ago, now Christians are inviting a Jew to become a lawless pagan, and it has nothing to do with a Jewish Messiah.


Jews are the only ones who keep the religion of Messiah while Christians keep the religion of Tammuz and they call him Jesus, but he is still the lawless, pagan Tammuz.


Christians do not keep the ways of Messiah, Jews do.
 
Old 09-19-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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Modern Christianity has nothing to do with the original Christianity that was made up of Gentiles converts to Judaism.


Gentiles needed salvation because they were not a part of Israel, and so many Gentiles converted to Judaism through a betrothal to a Jew.


That was 2000 years ago, now Christians are inviting a Jew to become a lawless pagan, and it has nothing to do with a Jewish Messiah.


Jews are the only ones who keep the religion of Messiah while Christians keep the religion of Tammuz and they call him Jesus, but he is still the lawless, pagan Tammuz.


Christians do not keep the ways of Messiah, Jews do.
Hanni, Gentiles may convert to Judaism but are not required to in order to have a portion in Olam HaBa, all they have to do is to follow the Seven Noachide Laws in order to be a righteous Gentile and have a portion in Olam HaBa...Believe it or not, there will be Righteous Gentiles in Olam HaBa...
 
Old 09-19-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Hanni, Gentiles may convert to Judaism but are not required to in order to have a portion in Olam HaBa, all they have to do is to follow the Seven Noachide Laws in order to be a righteous Gentile and have a portion in Olam HaBa...Believe it or not, there will be Righteous Gentiles in Olam HaBa...
I am with you there, they settled the question of Gentiles and the law in Acts, in the beginning, pagans stopped being pagan, they began to accept the Sabbaths and feasts of God but they were separated not being to enter into places where only Israel may go. There was a big difference in Jews and Gentiles who then accepted God's worship system while rejecting the worship system of pagan Gods that they had always kept.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 09:39 AM
 
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Judaism and belief that Jesus is the divine son of god are 100% incompatible. Jews believe in one god and one god only. The notion of Jesus and the holy spirit forming some three part entity is apostasy and akin to idol worship.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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Still there were some 10,000 Jews who converted to Christianity in the first century after the cross of Christ , and then some 1 in 9 Jews in America converted to Christianity or married into a Christian spouse in resent times according to Pew ........ There are around 15,000 Messianic Jews in Israel today who have Christ on their lives , then there is around 250,000 Messianic Jews in America today ........... So then there are many Jews who believe in Jesus ............. One thing that blocks Jews from converting to Christ is tradition , as Jesus told His followers to reject the tradition of their family
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Still there were some 10,000 Jews who converted to Christianity in the first century after the cross of Christ.
From what did you derive this figure of 10,000 Jews who converted to Christianity in the first century? Even the NT indicates that the Jews did not believe the story of the resurrection (Matthew 28:15). The Jewish population of Jerusalem were the very people in the best position to know what had actually occurred. And they never believed the story.
 
Old 09-20-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Jews for Jesus is a right-wing, evangelical Christian organisation.
I can hardly wait for "PoE's for Atheism".
 
Old 09-20-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius View Post
Modern Christianity has nothing to do with the original Christianity that was made up of Gentiles converts to Judaism.


Gentiles needed salvation because they were not a part of Israel, and so many Gentiles converted to Judaism through a betrothal to a Jew.


That was 2000 years ago, now Christians are inviting a Jew to become a lawless pagan, and it has nothing to do with a Jewish Messiah.


Jews are the only ones who keep the religion of Messiah while Christians keep the religion of Tammuz and they call him Jesus, but he is still the lawless, pagan Tammuz.


Christians do not keep the ways of Messiah, Jews do.
One thing that Paul's Christians did not convert to was Judaism. the Christians threw Judaism in the bin after taking what they wanted. Life after death and off -the -shelf forgiveness for sins. Is it amy wonder that Marcion wanted nothing of Judaism and, if the ones who wanted to at least claim direct links with Judaism hadn't prevailed, we'd have no OT. Probably no Prophecies of Jesus, either. Except the Paulinist ones saying that God had had enough of Jews and had turned to the Gentiles. Which is what the Pauline message was.
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