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One thing that Paul's Christians did not convert to was Judaism. the Christians threw Judaism in the bin after taking what they wanted. Life after death and off -the -shelf forgiveness for sins. Is it amy wonder that Marcion wanted nothing of Judaism and, if the ones who wanted to at least claim direct links with Judaism hadn't prevailed, we'd have no OT. Probably no Prophecies of Jesus, either. Except the Paulinist ones saying that God had had enough of Jews and had turned to the Gentiles. Which is what the Pauline message was.
No dude, that is you stuck in pre conceived ideas of false Christianity.
Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism, you could not have an unauthorized religion in Rome, and Christianity flew under the umbrella of Judaism as a legal sect of Judaism. It wasn't till the burning of the great synagogue that Gentiles split from Judaism.
Paul never left Judaism, Paul never stopped being a Pharisee.
No dude, that is you stuck in pre conceived ideas of false Christianity.
Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism, you could not have an unauthorized religion in Rome, and Christianity flew under the umbrella of Judaism as a legal sect of Judaism. It wasn't till the burning of the great synagogue that Gentiles split from Judaism.
Paul never left Judaism, Paul never stopped being a Pharisee.
From all I have heard, Rome did not recognise Christianity as a legal anything, though this was because they would not sacrifice to the Emperor. Paul may have aid that he was a Jew, but clearly, he regarded his 'Gospel' as an alternative to Judaism, not Judaism as the Jews saw it. The only connection was worship of the same god and lifting some doctrinal elements like Adam's sin. The same can be said of Islam.
From all I have heard, Rome did not recognise Christianity as a legal anything, though this was because they would not sacrifice to the Emperor. Paul may have aid that he was a Jew, but clearly, he regarded his 'Gospel' as an alternative to Judaism, not Judaism as the Jews saw it. The only connection was worship of the same god and lifting some doctrinal elements like Adam's sin. The same can be said of Islam.
Paul's religion was Judaism Transponder, AGAIN, you have pre conceived taught ideas of what an anti-Semitic church has been teaching for 2000 years. Paul surrendered to the priests of Judaism LITERALLY putting his life in their hands, and they were about to kill him. Paul had NO REASON to submit to the priests of Judaism because he was a Roman citizen but Paul went out of his way proving without a doubt that he never taught Jews not to keep the laws. Those were rumors and lies, and people take what Paul says to Gentiles and they try and apply it to Jews when it cannot be done.
Paul had Stephen stoned to death because two liars were paid to lie against Stephen saying that Stephen was teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses.
There is overwhelming proof that Paul never left Judaism, and that thousands of Jews believed and became EVEN MORE ZEALOUS TO KEEP THE LAWS OF MOSES.
Acts 21 Paul's Arrival at Jerusalem 17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.25As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. 26Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
Paul Seized in the Temple 27And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, 28Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
So that all may know that Paul never taught Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, and that all may know that Paul never stopped keeping the law, that all may know that Paul remained a Pharisee in Judaism, and every single Jew who believed became even more zealous to walk in Judaism.
2000 years of anti-Semitic, lawlessness from Christians have spun the lie they love to love.
Did not Jesus in the Bible state to keep the laws of Moses to which he replied were the 10 Commandments? Paul was a Jew there was no Christianity at that time. I believe Paul wrote letter that emphasized that people should follow the ways and thoughts of Jesus whom he titled as Christ.
I do not believe there is any indication if Paul believed that Jesus was the son of God but he converted his way of thought to follow the thought and way of life as Jesus. Shoot even Jesus is not Christian but gave the pathway to what we call Christian.
From all I have heard, Rome did not recognise Christianity as a legal anything
You are a walking God of Rome in the same days as Jesus. Rome had it's own walking God and there is an obelisk standing to Caesar as a walking God at the church.
You are the God of Rome and Rome is the center of all Gods, do you understand this? Jerusalem was Rome, Rome was the all powerful City being led by a walking God and all of it's citizens were becoming Christian and as Christians, they began making Holy Pilgrimages to Jerusalem.
Do you understand this?
YOU ARE THE WALKING GOD IN ROME WATCHING YOUR EMPIRE BECOMING CHRISTIAN, AND THOSE CHRISTIANS NATURALLY WENT IN PILGRIMAGES TO JERUSALEM.
Jerusalem was about to become the Holy city for every Gentile Roman who became Christian. Not only did the Orthodox Jews despise all these Gentiles coming up to the feasts of Jerusalem, ROME couldn't possibly allow it's citizens to establish Jerusalem as the ONE AND ONLY HOLY CITY.
Therefore the law would have went forth from Jerusalem under a Jewish King.
It wasn't till the fire was blamed on Christians that Gentiles completely separated from Jews. Hadrian HATED JEWS , there was a Jewish tax against Jews and if you were a Gentile caught keeping Jewish feasts, you paid the tax after the Jewish war, and war brought hate against any Jewish Sabbath or feasts.
COMMON SENSE.
Jeroboam's Idolatry
25Then Jeroboam built Shechem in the hill country of Ephraim and lived there. And from there he went out and built Penuel. 26Jeroboamsaidin his heart,“Now,the kingdommight revertto the houseof David.27If these people go up to offer sacrifices in the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, their hearts will return to their lord, Rehoboam king of Judah; then they will kill me and return to Rehoboam king of Judah.”…
Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism 100 years until Hadrian's day.
By Common sense, Rome had to separate the Gentile from Jerusalem and the Jew or they would lose their kingdom.
"It is, however, not difficult to account for the credit that was given to the story of Jesus Christ being the son of God. He was born when the heathen mythology had still some fashion and repute in the world, and that mythology had prepared the people for the belief of such a story. Almost all the extraordinary men that lived under the heathen mythology were reputed to be the sons of some of their gods. It was not a new thing, at that time, to believe a man to have been celestially begotten; the intercourse of gods with women was then a matter of familiar opinion. Their Jupiter, according to their accounts, had cohabited with hundreds: the story, therefore, had nothing in it either new, wonderful, or obscene; it was conformable to the opinions that then prevailed among the people called Gentiles, or Mythologists, and it was those people only that believed it. The Jews who had kept strictly to the belief of one God, and no more, and who had always rejected the heathen mythology, never credited the story"
"It is, however, not difficult to account for the credit that was given to the story of Jesus Christ being the son of God. He was born when the heathen mythology had still some fashion and repute in the world, and that mythology had prepared the people for the belief of such a story. Almost all the extraordinary men that lived under the heathen mythology were reputed to be the sons of some of their gods. It was not a new thing, at that time, to believe a man to have been celestially begotten; the intercourse of gods with women was then a matter of familiar opinion. Their Jupiter, according to their accounts, had cohabited with hundreds: the story, therefore, had nothing in it either new, wonderful, or obscene; it was conformable to the opinions that then prevailed among the people called Gentiles, or Mythologists, and it was those people only that believed it. The Jews who had kept strictly to the belief of one God, and no more, and who had always rejected the heathen mythology, never credited the story"
Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism 100 years until Hadrian's day.
LOL! I doubt it mate. Most people hadn't even heard of Christianity in Hadrian's day. Hadrian died in 138CE and at that time, Christianity was an obscure blood cult. Christianity didn't 'take off' until the 4th century CE.
No dude, that is you stuck in pre conceived ideas of false Christianity.
Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism, you could not have an unauthorized religion in Rome, and Christianity flew under the umbrella of Judaism as a legal sect of Judaism. It wasn't till the burning of the great synagogue that Gentiles split from Judaism.
Paul never left Judaism, Paul never stopped being a Pharisee.
Most of what they know comes from old Protestant anti-Catholic propaganda and 'Enlightenment' nonsense, and websites where they find cherry picked and mis-represented rubbish in their quest for confirmation of their biases, hence their assorted and disconnected absurdities. It's clear they know nothing about the theology, the history of Christianity from A.D. 0 to the era of Constantine, anything about Constantine himself outside of false propaganda, nor anything of history after him, either, so don't get upset, they're just trolling anyway.
And you are correct; Christians at first met and attended Jewish services at temples; it was other Jews who drove them out, not the other way around.
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