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Old 09-09-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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I'm talking about 1 Corinthians 13:4-8:

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4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
I have always loved (pun not intended) that and believe so.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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I think that is one of the most beautiful passages in the Bible. I'm an atheist, btw.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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It sounds nice but some of it is why people put up with abuse
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Mod cut.

OP, I do think that scripture does a good job of explaining love. If both partners in a relationship would follow the suggestions there, they'd have a great foundation.

Last edited by PJSaturn; 09-09-2018 at 07:03 PM.. Reason: Orphaned.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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No, not at all. You can love someone deeply get become impatient, for example. You don't stop loving the person for those five seconds. You're not only fake-loving him, then real-loving later when it's perfect again. People are imperfect; therefore, so is love. That doesn't make it not-love.

Another example is the boasting portion. I have boasted (technically) about my children when they had some huge accomplishment. My love wasn't tainted, false, or somehow incomplete while I was doing this. They were and are my sun and moon and I would always put them before me in a heartbeat.

Likewise, you can truly love someone but if that person is hurting you and you just stay, is that Paul's real love because you're continuing to be patient? Is that "real" love?
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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No, not at all. You can love someone deeply get become impatient, for example. You don't stop loving the person for those five seconds. You're not only fake-loving him, then real-loving later when it's perfect again. People are imperfect; therefore, so is love. That doesn't make it not-love.

Another example is the boasting portion. I have boasted (technically) about my children when they had some huge accomplishment. My love wasn't tainted, false, or somehow incomplete while I was doing this. They were and are my sun and moon and I would always put them before me in a heartbeat.

Likewise, you can truly love someone but if that person is hurting you and you just stay, is that Paul's real love because you're continuing to be patient? Is that "real" love?
Well, I think it's obvious it's assuming both parties feel the same way. And also of course people are imperfect and as such love will be as well, but nevertheless I view it as a good thing to strive to be.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:04 PM
 
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Well, I think it's obvious it's assuming both parties feel the same way. And also of course people are imperfect and as such love will be as well, but nevertheless I view it as a good thing to strive to be.
To strive to be, sure.

But if you don't make it that doesn't mean it was never love.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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To strive to be, sure.

But if you don't make it that doesn't mean it was never love.
I don't see where you see the contradiction. of course that's true, just like while I am now happily married I have had ex girlfriends I would say I genuinely loved but due to other factors we broke up. No where in the chapter does it state "And if you do all of this you'll never break apart".

I look at it akin to how TV shows like leave it to beaver gets criticized for being unrealistic yet while it may be true I don't see how TV shows showing off lots of family dysfunction is any better.
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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I think it does a good job of explaining what love does
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Old 09-09-2018, 05:25 PM
 
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The original texts had different terms for different kinds of love, from brotherly to motherly to romantic and in that context I think it's useful to think about love in those terms. Too many associate love with the romantic kind and leave the others out but they're important.
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