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Old 09-29-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Another positive assertion with no evidence. You are more than welcome to “believe” this, but asserting it as a fact is worthless. All real evidence says that when our brains die, our essence dies.

Is there an afterlife? Maybe, but no one “knows” this and is intellectually dishonest if they say they do.
It may seem that "all real evidence says that when our brains die, our essence dies"... but what you and others are missing is that there is another component to our beings. We aren't just physical beings... we are also spiritual beings with our spirit/soul residing inside of our physical bodies. Our spirit/soul is attached to our physical bodies by a silver cord. This allows for our spirit/soul to travel beyond this earth... or astral travel... and then return to our body. At our death, this silver cord is cut and, hence, our spirit/soul is unable to go back inside, but rises to the next world... the spirit world aka Heavens.

I had an experience one night after I had been asleep for a time. I woke up and I couldn't move my arms or legs... it was like I was paralyzed. Then I heard a buzzing noise and I had the sensation that I fell off the bed. When I opened my eyes, I was on the bed, exactly how I was when I first woke up. Only this time I could move my arms and legs. I had experienced my spirit/soul being out of my body, or as some call it... an out-of-body experience or OBE.

From Medical News Today, 19 July 2017

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As you lie in slumber, your spirit body snaps free and drifts upward while your physical shell is left lonely on the bed below, connected only by a fragile, silvery cord. You turn and observe yourself peacefully sleeping. Could this be evidence of the soul? Could it be proof of life after death?

"I suddenly seemed to divide into two distinct beings. [...] One of these beings remained motionless on the sofa; the other could move some little distance, and could actually look at the motionless body on the sofa." Journal of Society for Psychical Research, July 1894
Scientists can speculate and deduce how this phenomena occurs until the cows come home, but there are just too many people throughout the ages... who have had this spiritual experience to discount it as a physical illness or trauma or whatever they want to call it.
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Old 09-29-2018, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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I'm just wearing this meat suit...it's not 'me'. (No, I have no proof of this!)
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Old 09-29-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It may seem that "all real evidence says that when our brains die, our essence dies"... but what you and others are missing is that there is another component to our beings. We aren't just physical beings... we are also spiritual beings with our spirit/soul residing inside of our physical bodies. Our spirit/soul is attached to our physical bodies by a silver cord. This allows for our spirit/soul to travel beyond this earth... or astral travel... and then return to our body. At our death, this silver cord is cut and, hence, our spirit/soul is unable to go back inside, but rises to the next world... the spirit world aka Heavens.

I had an experience one night after I had been asleep for a time. I woke up and I couldn't move my arms or legs... it was like I was paralyzed. Then I heard a buzzing noise and I had the sensation that I fell off the bed. When I opened my eyes, I was on the bed, exactly how I was when I first woke up. Only this time I could move my arms and legs. I had experienced my spirit/soul being out of my body, or as some call it... an out-of-body experience or OBE.

From Medical News Today, 19 July 2017



Scientists can speculate and deduce how this phenomena occurs until the cows come home, but there are just too many people throughout the ages... who have had this spiritual experience to discount it as a physical illness or trauma or whatever they want to call it.
Maybe you ought to read the title of the article. It asks a question. Nowhere does the article come to a conclusion. It presents information to be considered.

You have come to a particular set of conclusions based on your already preconceived beliefs. You're welcome to them...but don't pass them off as settle science...which is an intentional lie.

I've had "psychic" experiences as well. But I don't try to pass them off as science, and I don't expect anyone else to believe them since UNLIKE SCIENCE they can't be replicated by other people.

As a former science teacher, your grade today in science is F.
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I've had "psychic" experiences as well. But I don't try to pass them off as science, and I don't expect anyone else to believe them since UNLIKE SCIENCE they can't be replicated by other people.
Well, I'll be darned... you had a psychic experience.

How about sharing it?
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'm just wearing this meat suit...it's not 'me'. (No, I have no proof of this!)
Haha! I was in Scottsdale last week attending the 2018 Afterlife Institute Symposium. Not that I believed everything I heard, but they've got an interesting way of communicating with spirits now. If you ever get a chance to go to this, you might like it.
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Old 09-29-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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It may seem that "all real evidence says that when our brains die, our essence dies"... but what you and others are missing is that there is another component to our beings. We aren't just physical beings... we are also spiritual beings with our spirit/soul residing inside of our physical bodies. Our spirit/soul is attached to our physical bodies by a silver cord. This allows for our spirit/soul to travel beyond this earth... or astral travel... and then return to our body. At our death, this silver cord is cut and, hence, our spirit/soul is unable to go back inside, but rises to the next world... the spirit world aka Heavens.

I had an experience one night after I had been asleep for a time. I woke up and I couldn't move my arms or legs... it was like I was paralyzed. Then I heard a buzzing noise and I had the sensation that I fell off the bed. When I opened my eyes, I was on the bed, exactly how I was when I first woke up. Only this time I could move my arms and legs. I had experienced my spirit/soul being out of my body, or as some call it... an out-of-body experience or OBE.

From Medical News Today, 19 July 2017



Scientists can speculate and deduce how this phenomena occurs until the cows come home, but there are just too many people throughout the ages... who have had this spiritual experience to discount it as a physical illness or trauma or whatever they want to call it.
Again, that is something you believe with no evidence. You cannot factually claim there is a soul.
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Old 09-29-2018, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Again, that is something you believe with no evidence. You cannot factually claim there is a soul.
"The soul, in its existence prior to becoming an indweller in the mortal body, has a consciousness of its existence and of its relationship to God and to other parts of the Great Soul, and more especially of the duplex character of its being; and by this I mean the sexual differences in the two parts of the soul, which, in the way that they are united, constitutes the one complete soul.

When the time comes for this soul to become an indweller in the mortal frame, the two parts that I speak of separate, and only one of the parts enters at the same time into a mortal and never into the same mortal; and while this separation is necessary for the individualization of each part of this one complete soul, yet the two parts never lose that interrelationship, or the binding qualities that existed before their separation, and which continue to exist thereafter, and in the great future, after the work of individualization shall be completed, will come together again and reunite in a complete one."

Soulmates and the Incarnation of the Soul
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Old 09-29-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Well, I'll be darned... you had a psychic experience.

How about sharing it?
Nope. I don't know you.
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Old 09-29-2018, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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"The soul, in its existence prior to becoming an indweller in the mortal body, has a consciousness of its existence and of its relationship to God and to other parts of the Great Soul, and more especially of the duplex character of its being; and by this I mean the sexual differences in the two parts of the soul, which, in the way that they are united, constitutes the one complete soul.

When the time comes for this soul to become an indweller in the mortal frame, the two parts that I speak of separate, and only one of the parts enters at the same time into a mortal and never into the same mortal; and while this separation is necessary for the individualization of each part of this one complete soul, yet the two parts never lose that interrelationship, or the binding qualities that existed before their separation, and which continue to exist thereafter, and in the great future, after the work of individualization shall be completed, will come together again and reunite in a complete one."

Soulmates and the Incarnation of the Soul
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Old 09-30-2018, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Nope. I don't know you.
And my lips are sealed ...as a reminder to anyone ...
phet and I had coffee last month...a perfect gentleman.
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