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Old 04-03-2008, 08:44 PM
 
Location: South Central PA
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I'm speaking of immortallity, not dying then going to heaven.

No hair splitting here, just strong meat.

godspeed,

freedom
Your saying I'm never going to die. I'll just be here bumming along in my flying car a million years from now?
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Your saying I'm never going to die. I'll just be here bumming along in my flying car a million years from now?
No, though it is possible for everyone to overcome death, i don't know who will overcome, its up to them to do the work. And if you overcome, you will not need a car, you can come and go as the wind, faster than the speed of light.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:20 PM
 
Location: South Central PA
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No, though it is possible for everyone to overcome death, i don't know who will overcome, its up to them to do the work. And if you overcome, you will not need a car, you can come and go as the wind, faster than the speed of light.
Not according to einstein...
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:29 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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The paradox of life is that you can't enjoy it if you never experienced pain. If your life was without pain you probably lived a safe and uneventful life.
The secret of life is not that you learn to love pain, but simply that you do not deny it whenever it is there.
Life = pain so feeling pain means that you are alive.
Not feeling anything (not even joy) means that you are 'death'.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:49 AM
 
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"Experience has taught me that interest begets expectation, and expectation begets disappointment, so the key to avoiding disappointment is to avoid interest. A equals B equals C equals A, or… whatever. I also don't have a lot of interest in being a good person or a bad person. From what I can tell, either way, you're screwed.

Bad people are punished by society's law.
And good people … are punished by Murphy's Law.
So you see my dilemma."
-George, from the show 'Dead Like Me'
DEAD LIKE ME was an awesome show!!!
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Old 12-21-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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The paradox of life is that you can't enjoy it if you never experienced pain.
Manifestly not true.
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If your life was without pain you probably lived a safe and uneventful life.
If your life was without pain you probably lived a safe and pleasurable life which was (un)eventful as you wanted it to be.
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The secret of life is not that you learn to love pain, but simply that you do not deny it whenever it is there.
Life = pain so feeling pain means that you are alive.
Not feeling anything (not even joy) means that you are 'death'.
I would say it makes no sense to deny WHATEVER happens to be there, wanted / enjoyed or not. Part of not denying pain is not minimizing it as insignificant when in fact it's quite significant indeed -- nor accepting it as necessary when it's completely unacceptable in all its forms.

My response to pain is to do what I can to eradicate from my life and the lives of others. I neither deny its existence nor dignify it as something necessary or acceptable.
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Old 12-21-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Not according to einstein...
Einstein was just a man. Smart and intelligent, no doubt, but even he was limited like the rest of us are. Also, he apparently was not spiritual. He may have tuned out a whole area of his mind and a part of existence. He may have put science above all else. So, he might be an expert in many areas, but not all. Others offer more insight when it comes to the spiritual realm.
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Old 12-21-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Sounds like you are a half glass empty guy.
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Old 12-21-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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What does it take to see the glass as half full?

I would say working on one's self and self development. Then once the glass is half full, one can work on filling the glass beyond what they thought was ever possible. I'm in favor of positive psychology and figuring out what truly makes one happy and then working towards that. It does take work though and a lot of people don't feel they could change and are not willing to try.
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Old 12-21-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: USA
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"Experience has taught me that interest begets expectation, and expectation begets disappointment, so the key to avoiding disappointment is to avoid interest. A equals B equals C equals A, or… whatever. I also don't have a lot of interest in being a good person or a bad person. From what I can tell, either way, you're screwed.

Bad people are punished by society's law.
And good people … are punished by Murphy's Law.
So you see my dilemma."
-George, from the show 'Dead Like Me'
Life is a crapshoot, and that is a fact. Every day could be our last. We mitigate this possibility as best we can by attempting to make sound choices. And by "sound choices" I mean choices that seem to give us the best chance of surviving until tomorrow based on reason and observation. As opposed to making life choices based on unfounded assumption and subscribing to make believe. For example:

Tue, May 16, 2017
Pastor attempting to walk on water like Jesus is eaten by crocodiles

A PASTOR attempting to demonstrate God’s power by walking on water has been eaten by crocodiles.

Jonathan Mthethwa was killed by three crocodiles as he carried out a religious demonstration in Zimbabwe.

Shocked witnesses said the clergyman had “prayed the whole week” before the stunt went tragically wrong.

He had also fasted in the lead-up to the attempted miracle, which was inspired by a Biblical tale of Jesus walking on water during a storm.

Horrified members of the Saint of the Last Days Church said the pastor was completely devoured in a “couple of minutes”.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...athan-Mthethwa

Instead of a demonstration of the power of God, what the pastor actually accomplished was an example of the potential consequences of unquestioning faith and abject gullibility, and of believing in make believe.

Unquestioning faith and abject gullibility are one way nature has of weeding out those too unfit to be allowed to pass on their genes.

Not that people who do not subscribe to make believe are safe from the uncertainties of life. It's just that their odds of making it to a natural end are much better.
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