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Old 10-10-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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When you are ready to cease taking kindness for weakness you will be given a reed to measure the kingdom.
Until then I have a question.

What pattern of importance is given in the 15 beams that a person might find in the 120 days?

Were you looking for a reed shakin in the wind.

Blessed be the Name
Do what?...
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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What?
Moshe the legislator.
What in the world does that mean.

Insinuating more that 8 persons were saved is nonsense, and has never been taught in tradition.

You should know better sir.
Two Shabbat as found during pesach is what you are looking for from what I can tell.
Why you ignore it is beyond reasoning.

Perhaps a visual.
{Shabbat}
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{Shabbat}

Now why do you suppose 7 days are set aside as offering of fire during pesach?
Talk to Josephus...
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:38 PM
 
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Talk to Josephus...
If you havent realized ole friend.
Everyone is begining to see the value of testing the spirits.

As for your attempt to speak about the covenant of Fire..
Its obvious to me that you were never taught by a jew, much less were you ever brought into the fold of tradition.

You can lean on rosends, pruz, or even flip a;; you like.

But nothing will keep you from the keen eyes that are to come.

I enjoyed the miniscule attempt you put forth.
Little did you Know.
Discretion in language is valuable.


Lets talk about the Tanakh!
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:02 PM
 
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The ubiquity of Flood legends isn't just the topic of modern creationists. At least one ancient historian noticed the same thing. In his book, The Antiquities of the Jews, 1st century, Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus penned this paragraph:

Now all the writers of barbarian histories make mention of this flood, and of this ark; among whom is Berossus the Chaldean. For when he was describing the circumstances of the flood, he goes on thus: "It is said, there is still some part of this ship in Armenia, at the mountain of the Cordyaeans; and that some people carry off pieces of the bitumen, which they take away, and use chiefly as amulets, for the averting of mischiefs."--Hieronymus the Egyptian also, who wrote the Phenician antiquities, and Manases, and a great many more, make mention of the same. Nay, Nicholas of Damascus, in his ninety-sixth book, hath a particular relation about them; where he speaks thus: "There is a great mountain in Armenia, over Minyas, called Baris, upon which it is reported, that many who fled at the time of the deluge were saved; and that one who was carried in an ark, came on shore upon the top of it; and that the remains of the timber were a great while preserved. This might be the man about whom Moses the legislator of the Jews wrote. - A Sure Word: Josephus Talks About Noah's Flood

The bible also states a certain group of people also survived.


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Flood legends from antiquity are probably based on psychology more than history. What does a flood represent in a dream?
It is incorrect to use "flood" as the translation for the Hebrew word. The correct translation is "deluge" or "inundation" and neither requires a flood. A tsunami would produce the same results.






Since the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet, that part that rests on the ocean, was destroyed some 12,000 years ago, and the Eastern Antarctic Ice Sheet was unaffected, we can rule out any weather or climate related phenomenon. That leaves only a celestial induced cataclysmic event, caused by a small asteroid or comet. The tsunami generated would have swept across the Pacific and Indian Oceans. That's consistent with the many myths. Even more consistent is the myths of tribal groups in northeast Siberia and the US northwest which contain references to the "green star" or "flaming arrow". They would have seen a comet or asteroid entering Earth over the north polar region, traveling across the Bering Strait in a southwesterly direction toward the Antarctic Continent, but other groups of people in other areas of the world would not.

It's also consistent with mythologies stating the event lasted 3-5 days. Only the Hebrews claim it lasted 40 days or one year depending on the author (E or J).
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:56 AM
 
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The bible also states a certain group of people also survived.




It is incorrect to use "flood" as the translation for the Hebrew word. The correct translation is "deluge" or "inundation" and neither requires a flood. A tsunami would produce the same results.






Since the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet, that part that rests on the ocean, was destroyed some 12,000 years ago, and the Eastern Antarctic Ice Sheet was unaffected, we can rule out any weather or climate related phenomenon. That leaves only a celestial induced cataclysmic event, caused by a small asteroid or comet. The tsunami generated would have swept across the Pacific and Indian Oceans. That's consistent with the many myths. Even more consistent is the myths of tribal groups in northeast Siberia and the US northwest which contain references to the "green star" or "flaming arrow". They would have seen a comet or asteroid entering Earth over the north polar region, traveling across the Bering Strait in a southwesterly direction toward the Antarctic Continent, but other groups of people in other areas of the world would not.

It's also consistent with mythologies stating the event lasted 3-5 days. Only the Hebrews claim it lasted 40 days or one year depending on the author (E or J).
Forty days and nights of rain, a year before he could land the boat...
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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Ah, and the flood.

Evidence is so overwhelming and abundant, that only one who does not want to see it, will not see it. Noah, or not, global flood, or not - MAJOR flood type catastrophes were scattered through known history almost regularly. Last one I know of was in the 18th century.

Don't forget, in ancient times, WORLD was something like 500 miles radius from where community lived. Maybe a thousand, though I doubt. It is easy to flood an area that small due to any even mediocre cataclysm. What it will result in? Word of the mouth "world was flooded" story.


There is no evidence for a GLOBAL flood. And many early cultures have no flood mythology (you know, like the ones in countries that had no contact with the Mesopotamian era cultures - like in South America, parts of China. Wow what a coincidence, eh?). There is evidence for various floods at various times in geographically limited locales. Which will be no surprise to anyone living on planet earth.


Overwhelming logic denial for sure. Entirely underwhelming actual evidence.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:19 AM
 
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There is no evidence for a GLOBAL flood. And many early cultures have no flood mythology (you know, like the ones in countries that had no contact with the Mesopotamian era cultures - like in South America, parts of China. Wow what a coincidence, eh?). There is evidence for various floods at various times in geographically limited locales. Which will be no surprise to anyone living on planet earth.


Overwhelming logic denial for sure. Entirely underwhelming actual evidence.
If it was supernatural and/or only lasted 40days up to 1 year, I doubt there would be much evidence of a global flood left behind 2000 yrs later.
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