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Old 10-16-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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You were born. That's enough. You returned to the Wheel of Samsar.
I am not saying wicked or else. Semantics.

But by simple virtue of being born again, you show that you are not progressed to the stage, when you do not re exist.

If it will make you feel better, both Lakshmi and Sri Bhagwan Radjnish say that no one is guilty or responsible of their deeds. Lakshmi will say that you were conditioned, from birth, into what you are, so there is no one to blame. Radjnish will say that you are god's creation and god particle. God accepted and accepts you in creation, so creator is responsible for its creation.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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I don't think yours is or mine .
We can get distracted by pretty things ...as children we can get hurt and push another down in the sand box...
but, wicked'?

I think your essence is pure and innocent. Mine, too.
We go astray sometimes, not always..and our conscience gets to us.
Some in prison have been so wounded by others that their thinking is clouded with their pain that has turned into anger.
But, inside deep in their hardened heart is still a pure little kid..

Note: This isn't in the Christian section so I think we all know Bible quotes.
The question is clearly do YOU think...YOU....not what someone else thought and wrote.

Are we weak? Sure...but , born wicked? That's the question here.
Thanks.
Not surprised. Not a lot of folks on this forum believe the Bible.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:58 AM
 
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Not surprised. Not a lot of folks on this forum believe the Bible.

Thank whatever god you prefer.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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Rent free.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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No way are we "born wicked"? Anybody who has held a newborn baby in his arms should know that.
I thought about asking if they had held a newborn they would know.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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Rent free.

LOL. You're confused over who is living where, "codger." You can't even ignore me successfully.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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Could wicked mean carnal...I dunno all the Greek translations...ya know how sin really means missing the mark?
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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Not surprised. Not a lot of folks on this forum believe the Bible.
You're probably even wrong about that - More people here probably believe it, but they know better than to take we goddless bastards on in R/S let alone A/A and would rather damn each other as heretics on the Christianity forum.

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Could wicked mean carnal...I dunno all the Greek translations...ya know how sin really means missing the mark?
Could be. Interlinear Bible, here we go again...

I took Matthew 16. 4 'ponera' it also applies to usage relating to evil spirits, so it seems to be bad, malevolent, ill will, just doing bad stuff because they are bad, and that's the way they are.
It was interesting that the OT was loaded with 'wicked' references, Matthew had a good handful and Luke and Acts about 4, and Paul a half dozen, and Mark not one. I'd guess a different Greek term was used, but it's possible that it might only be found in Material common to Matthew and Luke.

Jizzuz, you people keep finding research work for me.

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Old 10-16-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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By nature we are born bad.

Do you have to teach your kids to lie, to be disobedient, to be rebellious, and to be selfish?

No. It comes naturally to them.
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:08 AM
 
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You're probably even wrong about that - More people here probably believe it, but they know better than to take we goddless bastards on in R/S let alone A/A and would rather damn each other as heretics on the Christianity forum.
I'm your huckleberry. I'll 'take you on' if you don't believe in Jesus Christ.
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