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Being omniscient, god knew that Eve and Adam would eat from the Tree of Knowledge, right? So, why did he do that? Why would he provide the "temptation".
We are made in God's image. We are more than an off and on switch and certainly God is more than that too. As humans we control our abilities why would the Creator who made us somehow lack that ability? God's ability includes Omniscience but it doesn't mean God can't control it.
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As god is omnipresent, one can then interpret that heaven is everywhere, which then would preclude hell being anywhere.
Millions of Christians recognize the earliest copies of the Bible do not even include the word Hell. The idea of eternal fiery torment took flight in the middle ages. The Bible teaches nothing survives death. You need something to survive after one dies to be eternally tortured. Our hope lies in the resurrection.
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You miss the whole point. We're not in here to convince you otherwise. We'd have a greater chance of launching ourselves to the moon. The whole purpose of us being here--mine at least--is to talk indirectly to lurkers who might be on the fence about whether to become Christians or not. Christians are incapable of giving anything other than the propaganda that's been drilled into them from the cradle. I at least have been on both sides of the fence and therefore can speak from experience that ridding oneself from all the crazy dogma, endless confusion on interpretation, and outright lies the church perpetrates to keep the money rolling in--dumping all that can be the most liberating feeling in the world. My life improved considerably since I threw all that religious nonsense into the garbage can. I have never looked back.
Well...at least you are finally being honest...and admitting that you are on this board as a Anti-Christianity mission.
Not that it wasn't fully obvious to anyone making the most basic analysis.
This...after denying (very aggressively) that your slams were at all relative to the Bible and/or Christianity.
You don't realize that you threw the baby out with the bathwater...and you are too gone (you think it's "liberating") to reach.
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Originally Posted by Matthew 4:4 View Post[/list]God's original purpose was for mankind to live forever on a beautiful paradisical Earth.
So, without sin we would all have the opportunity to live forever on Earth in perfect physical health of sound mind and body.
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So why, if this was what God wanted, didn't He make it happen?
It will happen. there are plenty of restoration prophecies in the Bible that tell us so.
We are created with free will. We are more than beings driven by instinct. In fact, Joshua knew as much about this subject when he told the ancient Hebrews choose for yourself who you will serve.
The Bible describes only God as absolutely perfect. Everything else is relative. If a created being chooses to go on a path that it's not designed for, no matter how perfect that creation is, it wont end well as we can see today.
It's the price of creating sentient beings vs robots but this imperfect period of time with the wars, famines, diseases wont be repeated in the future.
Well...at least you are finally being honest...and admitting that you are on this board as a Anti-Christianity mission.
Not that it wasn't fully obvious to anyone making the most basic analysis.
This...after denying (very aggressively) that your slams were at all relative to the Bible and/or Christianity.
You don't realize that you threw the baby out with the bathwater...and you are too gone (you think it's "liberating") to reach.
I haven't quite given up on him yet, Gldn, but his bath water was obviously so dirty that he didn't even know there was a baby in it.
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I haven't quite given up on him yet, Gldn, but his bath water was obviously so dirty that he didn't even know there was a baby in it. 
