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Old 10-20-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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many religions and spiritualities advocate altruism. now, a scientific study has found that giving without being recipricated has a positive effect on health

source:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0927105720.htm


jesus taught:


Luke 14:11-14 (WEB)
11 For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.”
12 He also said to the one who had invited him, “When you make a dinner or a supper, don’t call your friends, nor your brothers, nor your kinsmen, nor rich neighbors, or perhaps they might also return the favor, and pay you back.
13 But when you make a feast, ask the poor, the maimed, the lame, or the blind;
14 and you will be blessed, because they don’t have the resources to repay you. For you will be repaid in the resurrection of the righteous.”



Luke 6:33-34 (WEB)
33 If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
34 If you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive back as much.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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I thought you were going to erase your name and participation in this forum, yet here you are flooding it with inane threads.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:22 PM
 
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many religions and spiritualities advocate altruism. now, a scientific study has found that giving without being recipricated has a positive effect on health

source:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0927105720.htm


jesus taught:


Luke 14:11-14 (WEB)
11 For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.”
12 He also said to the one who had invited him, “When you make a dinner or a supper, don’t call your friends, nor your brothers, nor your kinsmen, nor rich neighbors, or perhaps they might also return the favor, and pay you back.
13 But when you make a feast, ask the poor, the maimed, the lame, or the blind;
14 and you will be blessed, because they don’t have the resources to repay you. For you will be repaid in the resurrection of the righteous.”



Luke 6:33-34 (WEB)
33 If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
34 If you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive back as much.
Confucius said:

Wisdom, compassion, and courage are the three universally recognized moral qualities of men.

Confucius also said:

Never do to others what you would not like them to do to you.

Confucius was born in 551 BC.

The Gospel according to Luke was written several decades after Jesus was executed, btw. Gospel Luke, like ALL the Gospels, was written anonymously. As a result little is really known about the author, other than the same person also wrote Acts of the Apostles. It is clear in Acts that the author is an admirer of Paul. But Paul never met Jesus either.

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The Gospel According to Luke
The most probable date for its composition is around 80–110 AD, and there is evidence that it was still being revised well into the 2nd century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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Confucius said:

Wisdom, compassion, and courage are the three universally recognized moral qualities of men.

Confucius also said:

Never do to others what you would not like them to do to you.

Confucius was born in 551 BC.

The Gospel according to Luke was written several decades after Jesus was executed, btw. Gospel Luke, like ALL the Gospels, was written anonymously. As a result little is really known about the author, other than the same person also wrote Acts of the Apostles. It is clear in Acts that the author is an admirer of Paul. But Paul never met Jesus either.

Wikipedia
The Gospel According to Luke
The most probable date for its composition is around 80–110 AD, and there is evidence that it was still being revised well into the 2nd century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke
i am familar with the gospels historic composition, along with it history. it is interesting to note the epistle of jame, which may be the oldest book in the new testament, was an account of the social and political upheaval that took place in jerusalem.


the inception of the early christian occurred during a time of grear political and social upheaval. many people werw persecuted.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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I thought you were going to erase your name and participation in this forum, yet here you are flooding it with inane threads.
Linking to this study is about as non-inane as it gets in the general Religion & Spirituality forum.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Exactly. The principle is well -known. If was also in the Bible, it would be no more than someone else getting (or borrowing) the existing ideas and pretending that Christianity was the First and Only ones to think it up. But I am never sure that Gospel lovingness is about altruism or making the Christian product look attractive.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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I thought you were going to erase your name and participation in this forum, yet here you are flooding it with inane threads.
way to show the love
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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Linking to this study is about as non-inane as it gets in the general Religion & Spirituality forum.
many religions, faith and spiritualities advocate altruism. who knew that giving without recipricating would be beneficicial to health
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:11 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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way to show the love
And yet the True Believers are not unknown to critique atheists about their posting - etiquette on the boards.
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Old 10-21-2018, 02:22 AM
 
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many religions and spiritualities advocate altruism. now, a scientific study has found that giving without being recipricated has a positive effect on health

source:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0927105720.htm

Making our sweet ol' Nate lose his trust in you? Weird because as far as I have read both your posts I had the impression that both of you were into deeply liberal versions of Christianity.
Is it that you have been fibbing for Jesus often? That does not look good, although it's understandable that bias can often carry us in the direction of that which is misleading.

I doubt joining a religion for the health benefits would count as kindness nor as "non-strategic."

I read the news article from ScienceDaily and searched the science article that they linked. No mention of a positive effect on health, just that "the warm glow" of altruistic kindness might be linked to the different brain state correlated with such a kindness (according to fMRI, both the reward areas and an extra area*) as opposed to strategic kindness (only the reward area).

*I searched further on this: the extra area is the "sgACC" which might be involved in modulating emotional behavior and also is possibly implicated in partially preventing some mood disorders like major depression and bipolar disorder.

Still, the metastudy in no way yet supposes (nor does the news article) that altruistic kindness would have a causal positive effect on mental health (let alone general health).

Would be nice to know though, since these are brain imaging studies. I have heard that a more positive mood is correlated with better overall health.

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