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Old 10-29-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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What are the prophecies about the Israel (meaning the descendants) and how do we determine who they are? Are the descendants of the Tribes if Israel the same as what we refer to as Jews today? Are the European Jews of today the decedents of those out of Africa and Asia?

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Old 10-29-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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What are the prophecies about the Israel (meaning the descendants) and how do we determine who they are? Are the descendants of the Tribes if Israel the same as what we refer to as Jews today? Are the European Jews of today the decedents of those out of Africa and Asia?
prophecies are Israel is a rouge nation and it does not matter who is who..we are all ONE in Christ..atleast those who do the will of the Father...

There is neither JEW nor GENTILE, MALE nor FEMALE, but the true follower (wheat) will be separated from the evangelical (chaff)...as the Lord will say I NEVER NEVER KNEW YOU WHO Persecuted the SICK, the HUNGRY, the IMMIGRANT, the PRISONER, those who THIRST and the POOR.
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Old 10-29-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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prophecies are Israel is a rouge nation and it does not matter who is who..we are all ONE in Christ..atleast those who do the will of the Father...

There is neither JEW nor GENTILE, MALE nor FEMALE, but the true follower (wheat) will be separated from the evangelical (chaff)...as the Lord will say I NEVER NEVER KNEW YOU WHO Persecuted the SICK, the HUNGRY, the IMMIGRANT, the PRISONER, those who THIRST and the POOR.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:32 AM
 
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prophecies are Israel is a rouge nation and it does not matter who is who..we are all ONE in Christ..atleast those who do the will of the Father...

There is neither JEW nor GENTILE, MALE nor FEMALE, but the true follower (wheat) will be separated from the evangelical (chaff)...as the Lord will say I NEVER NEVER KNEW YOU WHO Persecuted the SICK, the HUNGRY, the IMMIGRANT, the PRISONER, those who THIRST and the POOR.
SO based off of this who would be considered the bunch that the Lord said I never knew who? Seems like any group of people that have oppressed another group of people. Much of the people who persecuted other groups of people, sick, the hungry, the immigrant etc also make claims that they follow Christ but have done un-Christ like things.
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Old 10-30-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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I guess it's not too surprising how so many "christianize" the original words of Messiah as well as the Father YHWH. Israel are those that "Keep HIS Commandments". Messiah said so as did the original scripture (Torah). THAT is what HE was teaching by the way when here on earth, NOT some new religion that the Church of Rome (pagan) decided to create to take those who were still following the Hebrew ways away into their paganized versions with re translations to their language (altered for their own agendas). But since the Ruach probably didn't come before me you folks will carry on your altered ways. Israel will be ALL those who follow the Elohim of Avraham, Issac and Ya'acov and follow HIS Torah. You folks follow a so called "new testament" more then the very foundation of it ALL. You'd rather follow church teachings then Messiah's teachings. He was teaching correct following of the Torah, NOT the alterations the Pharasee's of the day that were more politically inclined than they were being righteous. A true member of Israel is a "Hebrew" (crossed over) from their gentile nature. Shaul (Paul) taught about this in case you missed it. In case you decided to alter true interpretations, a "Gentile" is as he said "Lost, Undone and Without YHWH". To be a Hebrew is to be one of the chosen (this is NOT by the way just Jews it's all).
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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prophecies are Israel is a rouge nation and it does not matter who is who..we are all ONE in Christ..atleast those who do the will of the Father...

There is neither JEW nor GENTILE, MALE nor FEMALE, but the true follower (wheat) will be separated from the evangelical (chaff)...as the Lord will say I NEVER NEVER KNEW YOU WHO Persecuted the SICK, the HUNGRY, the IMMIGRANT, the PRISONER, those who THIRST and the POOR.
Are you basically saying "DEMOCRATS"???



Honest question.
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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I guess it's not too surprising how so many "christianize" the original words of Messiah as well as the Father YHWH. Israel are those that "Keep HIS Commandments". Messiah said so as did the original scripture (Torah). THAT is what HE was teaching by the way when here on earth, NOT some new religion that the Church of Rome (pagan) decided to create to take those who were still following the Hebrew ways away into their paganized versions with re translations to their language (altered for their own agendas). But since the Ruach probably didn't come before me you folks will carry on your altered ways. Israel will be ALL those who follow the Elohim of Avraham, Issac and Ya'acov and follow HIS Torah. You folks follow a so called "new testament" more then the very foundation of it ALL. You'd rather follow church teachings then Messiah's teachings. He was teaching correct following of the Torah, NOT the alterations the Pharasee's of the day that were more politically inclined than they were being righteous. A true member of Israel is a "Hebrew" (crossed over) from their gentile nature. Shaul (Paul) taught about this in case you missed it. In case you decided to alter true interpretations, a "Gentile" is as he said "Lost, Undone and Without YHWH". To be a Hebrew is to be one of the chosen (this is NOT by the way just Jews it's all).

Cool so in your opinion according to the Torah to be a Hebrew has nothing to do with genealogy of descendants but those who follow the Messiah's (Jesus?) teachings.
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