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Nature can appear to be very cruel but no where near as cruel as humans!
Now onto the sharks. Shark embryos cannibalize their littermates in the womb, with the largest embryo eating all but one of its siblings.
Now, researchers know why: It's part of a struggle for paternity in utero, where babies of different fathers compete to be born.
And spiders eat their mates after mating.
The thing is, an intelligent designer would not have created such a system. Not a moral designer anyway.
Hippo are an extremely aggressive animal - the most dangerous wild animal in Africa, responsible for the most deaths. However, they have also been known to rescue antelope from crocodile, sometimes even attacking the croc. Are hippo moral creatures? Would an intelligent and moral creator have created immoral and vicious beasts that behave the way they do? What about predators?
No, that would be like comparing a plane to a bicycle and saying they are the same thing because they both
have moving parts. If the differences far outweigh the similarities then how can you say we are the same?
Music or just repeating sounds that have no bearing on the musical alphabet or melody?
Who is saying that human animals are the same as (or comparable to) viper/dog/sheep/fish animals?
Isn't a plane a machine, and isn't a bicycle a machine? Aren't they both also VEHICLES? The same as HUMANS ARE MAMMALS.
The musical alphabet and melodies are different among western and the various eastern cultures (unless they also choose to use the Italian-based ones).
Your definition of "animal" is rather loaded and rather degradational.
"animal" merely means "having breath," as is needed to be animated (muscularly mobile).
Fish, for example, breath through/using their gills. Sure, "animal" might be an outdated concept given that plants "also breath through pores on their surface" just like bugs, but plants breath in mostly a different gas in the atmosphere, one that can last 100 years in the upper layers when it gets there.
It is the superficially religious and supernaturalists that seek to change definitions in this case.
We are first and foremost mammals and mammals are animals. What makes us mammals? Our females have mammary glands (we call them breasts). Mammals produce milk with which to feed their infants, are warm blooded and have body hair. I don't need to go into mammalian reproduction ......
If by morality you mean adhering to some nonsense a corrupt leader fosters on a group, that may be a very human problem, and is likely part of our dna.
I agree, it's a worrisome trait that's been observed in the human species.
No it's not a norm but might become one since humans are pushing more and more animals into extinction through our own overpopulation and deforesting of their homes.
However if you don't think humans engage in infanticide then you really have your head in the sand....especially since there is a long history of humans doing this.
However it is a norm on a daily basis to see the horrors that humans commit that have nothing to do with overpopulation or physical sickness.
Just imagine how horrific humans are going to become once our overpopulation and climate change shifts populations on top of each other.
Totally irreverent to anything I posted.
When/where did I ever state ever state humans do not engage in infanticide?
There are no limits to human cruelty... no matter whether it's commited by omission or commission.
No, that would be like comparing a plane to a bicycle and saying they are the same thing because they both
have moving parts. If the differences far outweigh the similarities then how can you say we are the same?
No, comparing a plane to a plane is not the same as comparing a plane to a bicycle. But your straw man still works against you as your claim is that a bicycle is not a plane, therefore it is not a vehicle.
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Music or just repeating sounds that have no bearing on the musical alphabet or melody?
I listened to a Kohlmeise* singing today. Teacher, teacher, teacher, teacher. It's melody was just two notes of it's alphabet. You are now pretending music is not music.
When/where did I ever state ever state humans do not engage in infanticide?
You implied it by posting videos of a hippo killing a baby and of sharks eating their siblings after I asked grandpa to show me one animal that he can read about daily imposing their horrific behaviors on their own species as well as towards other animal species. (No I am not talking about other animals that kill to eat for survival) In fact the sharks eating their siblings is thought to be done for survival of their own genes if there is more than one father....so that example really does not apply.
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There are no limits to human cruelty... no matter whether it's commited by omission or commission.
Yep which is why it's laughable that religious folks think that some god created us in his image. They worship a god that displays no limits to cruelty. I wonder how they find spiritual enlightenment in doing that? Makes not one ounce of sense does it?
Who is saying that human animals are the same as (or comparable to) viper/dog/sheep/fish animals?
The Bible does, everything written of every animal is always referring to humans. From cover to cover the bible is teaching human evolution and how we are all born with a mind of a beast, and to overcome the mind of a beast is the point of the bible.
The bible is teaching us that we are born into the skins of animals but that we can overcome and become something greater in an expected evolution. We are taught over and over that we are the Tabernacle that is clothed in the skins of animals and those skins show a progressive evolution from an animal to a spiritual human and then it shows an evolution of all mankind in the every expanding design of the Tabernacle.
Because we are the Tabernacle which houses a spirit, the bible is showing an evolution of mankind everytime the design of the temple changes because a human is that Temple, that Tabernacle made from the skins of animals.
The Bible does, everything written of every animal is always referring to humans. From cover to cover the Bible is teaching human evolution and how we are all born with a mind of a beast, and to overcome the mind of a beast is the point of the Bible.
The bible is teaching us that we are born into the skins of animals but that we can overcome and become something greater in an expected evolution. We are taught over and over that we are the Tabernacle that is clothed in the skins of animals and those skins show a progressive evolution from an animal to a spiritual human and then it shows an evolution of all mankind in the every expanding design of the Tabernacle.
Because we are the Tabernacle which houses a spirit, the bible is showing an evolution of mankind every time the design of the temple changes because a human is that Temple, that Tabernacle made from the skins of animals.
The Bible teaches evolution.
Why do you so thoroughly mask your understanding under so much kabbalistic and ancient gobbledygook when you seem to know the essential truth of our purpose, Hanni? It has nothing to do with ANY religious rituals or traditions.
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