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Old 12-18-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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If atheists truly believe humans are animals then they are approving mass murder when hiring an exterminator. Also, they support slavery if they ever go visit a zoo.
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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If atheists truly believe humans are animals then they are approving mass murder when hiring an exterminator. Also, they support slavery if they ever go visit a zoo.
Only in jeffieland.

I'm glad nobody else lives there.
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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If atheists truly believe humans are animals then they are approving mass murder when hiring an exterminator. Also, they support slavery if they ever go visit a zoo.
Only if you define what words mean. Fortunately the rest of us have dictionaries.
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Old 12-18-2018, 01:08 PM
 
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So far all you've done is keep telling everyone else that they are wrong about everything. You have not stated your position clearly or given any reasons for it. I can only assume that that means that you don't really believe what you are saying.
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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Why is it that every believer who understands and accepts basic biology is considered an atheist? To some, such as Jeff, even the most devout Christian is an atheist if he accepts humans are mammals and part of the animal kingdom. It is probably a big surprise for many Christians, Muslims and Jews to discover that , according to Jeff's binomial system, the are atheists.

Linneaus was religious, classed as as animals prior to Darwin and Wallace coming up with the driving force behind evolution as is still the system for classifying living things on this planet. Apparently unbeknownst to him he was an atheist.
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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And I am not a theist and I definitely dont think that humans are animals.

Animals think subjectively.
Only humans think objectively
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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And I am not a theist and I definitely dont think that humans are animals.

Animals think subjectively.
Only humans think objectively
Then what the heck are we?
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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Then what the heck are we?
You and I and most of humanity are animals, Arach. But some people are special snowflakes created by a god-thing.

And yet we can interbreed...
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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We are humans
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Old 12-18-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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What does the golden rule have to do with empathy? You dont have to empathize with others. You just have to respect their rights if you want them to respect your rights.
Well, my questions aside for right now, empathy is both a conscious consideration and/or an emotion/feeling, right? Empathy is the very emotion of the golden rule no? Putting yourself in someone else's shoes, right? That is the golden rule: "as you would have them do to you." And that is empathy: "attempt to feel as they feel."

Obviously, morality is more than just the golden rule, but my point is that the widest form of empathy is a huge part of morality. And no, even if I have to repeat myself, empathy is not just the golden rule directly.

So the questions above can be added to my previous ones.
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