Dead Missionary Proves Beyond Shadow of Doubt Jesus is Imaginary (believers, Savior)
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But as far as do I believe Jesus existed? I don't know. 50-50. And if he did exist, I believe he was just a man...a teacher of sorts. I don't believe in all the "magic".
What I am complaining about is a statement that you make: "Dead Missionary Proves Beyond Shadow Of Doubt Jesus Is Imaginary". No. It simply does not prove that.
OMG! I've been misunderstood all this time. Phetaroi just take everything I've said and apply it to a Jesus son of God risen from the dead and ascended and sitting at God the Father's right hand right this minute who Stephen literally saw just before he was stoned. It is this Jesus supposedly interacting in the world today in his supernatural form waiting to return to earth to judge the living and the dead that I say is imaginary.
I've said all along it is possible a man called Jesus lived 2000 years ago but he died. He's not alive today. This is the Jesus of Christians' imagination. Are we on the same page now?
OMG! I've been misunderstood all this time. Phetaroi just take everything I've said and apply it to a Jesus son of God risen from the dead and ascended and sitting at God the Father's right hand right this minute who Stephen literally saw just before he was stoned. It is this Jesus supposedly interacting in the world today in his supernatural form waiting to return to earth to judge the living and the dead that I say is imaginary.
I've said all along it is possible a man called Jesus lived 2000 years ago but he died. He's not alive today. This is the Jesus of Christians' imagination. Are we on the same page now?
If you can't understand that the title of your thread is just plain wrong...then let it go.
There's no prize either way.
God, how many times do I have to explain this?????
Jesus promised he'd be with John Chau:
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Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...And surely I am with you always. Matthew 28:19-20
John Chau gets killed proselytizing to the natives. Jesus is not with him.
Why isn't Jesus with John Chau?
Because Jesus died 2000 years ago so the Jesus who promised he'd be with the people who proclaim him throughout the ages doesn't exist. He's imaginary.
When he was talking about "house of Omri" he was talking about the Kings of Israel, and so the same would be truth for "DAVIDHOUSE" in terms of being the Kings of Judah.
But as far as do I believe Jesus existed? I don't know. 50-50. And if he did exist, I believe he was just a man...a teacher of sorts. I don't believe in all the "magic".
What I am complaining about is a statement that you make: "Dead Missionary Proves Beyond Shadow Of Doubt Jesus Is Imaginary". No. It simply does not prove that.
Quite so. We have to be clear about what Jesus claim is being made. There are several
(1) a Historical Jesus - a real man upon whom Christianity is based and whom may or may not have been like the Jesus of the gospels.
(2) the christian Jesus who talked like a Paulinist Christian and who may or may not have actually expressed those views.
(3) a resurrected Jesus in heaven who is acting as a god, directing and protecting those who believe in him and try to do his will.
(4) an inspirational figure or teacher who (real or not) is a good role-model.
(3) is the one we are talking about here. (1) and (2) are not relevant to this discussion.
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
The title of the thread...taken at face value...no. It does not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus is imaginary.
As we often say to religious apologists, nothing can be known 100%. But, given the firm claims and assurances of Christian beliefs, when they don't pan out, the evidence surely is strong that they are not true.
God, how many times do I have to explain this?????
Jesus promised he'd be with John Chau:
John Chau gets killed proselytizing to the natives. Jesus is not with him.
Why isn't Jesus with John Chau?
Because Jesus died 2000 years ago so the Jesus who promised he'd be with the people who proclaim him throughout the ages doesn't exist. He's imaginary.
I mean come on....this isn't rocket science.
I tell you what. Since you have now definitely proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus is imaginary, message me when the following headline shows up on the front page of the Washington Post: OBSCURE POSTER PROVES BEYOND SHADOW OF DOUBT THAT JESUS IS IMAGINARY.
Maybe Jesus was busy.
Maybe Chau misread the bible.
Maybe Jesus didn't agree with Chau.
Maybe Jesus was imaginary to Chau.
Maybe Chau was just plain crazy.
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I'm going into denial 
