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Walking through walls is an easy metaphor to understand. Walking on water isn't coming to me so quickly, though if I give it some thought, I'll find it.
It's too bad Christianity is the only belief system we can do this with. When I first joined the forum I asked why Catholics worshipped Mother Mary and if they really believed in her appearances. Those questions were deemed bashing a faith.
I think you need a Basic World Religions brush-up course. In the conversation you quoted, Miss Hepburn was referring to Krishna. That's Hinduism, not Christianity. Nobody ever claimed Jesus had blue skin.
I think you need a Basic World Religions brush-up course. In the conversation you quoted, Miss Hepburn was referring to Krishna. That's Hinduism, not Christianity. Nobody ever claimed Jesus had blue skin.
Thanks for your public shaming. It's good to be the Queen.
Yes indeed. But then that lots of different Flood legends exist does not of itself mean that they are all false with no historical basis. The Biblical Flood rests on its' own credibility - not that any or all the others are either mythical or based on some real event.
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Actually, it suggests that floods exist. They do. Ergo, in this case it is the latter. They are all based on floods.
There is NO evidence that any of these were actually worldwide, though. This aspect is mythical for ALL worldwide-flood myths that have been pinpointed as supposedly having happened at a given time in history or prehistory, and thus far there is no evidence that I he entire population of people, animals, etc. was ever, globally, reduced to a few of pairs. In fact, there is solid evidence against the possibility.
It's too bad Christianity is the only belief system we can do this with. When I first joined the forum I asked why Catholics worshipped Mother Mary and if they really believed in her appearances. Those questions were deemed bashing a faith.
Entirely untrue. Many times a day here, and countless thousands of times a day around the world, ALL other religions are bashed in comparison to Christianity. They're called false (fake), evil, "in error," they're told their gods don't even exist and that they're " choosing" hell because they're "weak" or "have a selfish/evil/hate-prone nature." Then EVIDENCE is provided for this ( it's outrageous when you think about it) - via "scripture." this isn't just allowed. It's taught. pushed. People even knock on doors to force it into others' homes: YOUR religion is bad, OURS is real, YOURS is " a lie" from an evil creature that wants to kill the world.
If that isn't bashing I don't know what is...and it's not only not covert, it's actually taught, in groups, legally, every single Sunday (and randomly at any other time).
Twit?
A man that manifested himself 12 xs to make love to 12 women you call a twit?
Not.... 'What a guy'? 'Bravo!'
It's pure jealousy. And I can't play the flute, either.
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It's too bad Christianity is the only belief system we can do this with. When I first joined the forum I asked why Catholics worshipped Mother Mary and if they really believed in her appearances. Those questions were deemed bashing a faith.
They would be. Faith is (Arqdef) "Personal investment in (1) an hypothesis". Any questioning of that claim or belief is taken Personally.
(1) it is not actually the 'things hoped for or unseen' (though if it is demonstrable, Faith is not needed) - that merely makes the thing believed untenable and thus the reaction to doubt is taken even more personally.
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I certainly don't. I take the Gospel claim at face value - claims that something really happened. I wonder how many Christians would consider the resurrection metaphorical. Dude was dead; stayed dead. Resurrection was a metaphor of ...belief in Jesus being some role model or something. I don;t buy that and i don't buy any of the Jesus -stories as being metaphorical.
Which isn't to say that their being invented (I believe that, allright) was to make a teaching point. Very often Polemic. The netful of fish has symbolism. The shekel -eating fish is about Christians not being obligated to pay the temple -tax (which Jews collected even after the destruction of the Temple), and Sinking Simon (like the accusation of speaking as men speak, not as God) is this odd attitude towards Cephas - that he was somehow lacking in Faith and letting Jesus down. And at a time when I am sure they hadn't actually got Paul's letters and didn't know about the row over sitting with gentiles. Though Christianity had clearly been talking about Paul's mission and the part that the apostles played in it.
What can one expect when Jesus - story screenplay is built on OT passages presented as 'Prophecy'? Like the spear -stab, or Judas throwing the silver into the Temple.
Some have said none of that was real.
Do you think he did that? Do you think it's possible?
If it was a metaphor, it had to be a metaphor for something. Since a metaphor is something that represents or symbolizes something else, it would be useless if we were unable to identify that which it represented.
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Could man follow his example and simply advance enough to do such things?
I believe so, but not in this life. I see it as being possible at some point during our post-mortal existence in the world to come.
Actually, it suggests that floods exist. They do. Ergo, in this case it is the latter. They are all based on floods.
There is NO evidence that any of these were actually worldwide, though. This aspect is mythical for ALL worldwide-flood myths that have been pinpointed as supposedly having happened at a given time in history or prehistory, and thus far there is no evidence that I he entire population of people, animals, etc. was ever, globally, reduced to a few of pairs. In fact, there is solid evidence against the possibility.
I totally agree all that. But if you think about it, your argument is based on scientific evaluation of whether any such global flood is supported by the geological evidence or not - not by the argument that 'Global floods do not happen, therefore the Noachian flood is a myth' (though that prima facie, that might sound like a good reason). The evidence, not the rejection of things that Do Not Happen is the Real reason why Jesus' miracles should be rejected.
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Nobody ever claimed Jesus had blue skin.
It's pure jealousy. And I can't play the flute, either.
