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Old 08-14-2019, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Well that's a hypocritical position. You completely ignore factors like poverty and throw in a baseless association being that the states are in the Bible belt. So what? If the non-Bible belt states had this level of poverty, the crime would go up there too. Besides you do have non-Bible belt areas which are crime havens like Baltimore. Just take a look at the stats here. Hey look, District of Columbia is near the bottom for poverty. And no surprise, Washington DC is a high crime area, once known as the murder capitol.

https://talkpoverty.org/poverty/

The evidence is clear. Christianity has NOTHING to do with crime stats. This is the great lie of atheists. Blaming every single problem on Christians and pretending like they are the higher moral ground.
Well why is it that the most religious states are the most impoverished?

Why is it that the most religious states are home to the most racism?
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:50 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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It's only ridiculous because your claim has no relationship between the two factoids. OTOH, I explained why atheism which is hopeless at its core would lead someone to commit suicide especially if their life sucked. There really would be no point in going on suffering but merely to delay your trip to the compost heep and becoming worm food.
Yes, you have explained many times that this is our point of view. It's unclear why you feel you are the authority on whether or not others feel hopeless and are in a position to make this pronouncement.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Well then prove my opinion is wrong. <crickets>
Really? Yet again, really?

If YOU have an opinion, it is on YOU to establish that your opinion is correct. Your opinion is not assumed to be factual unless someone else can prove it is not.

This misconception of yours that you continue to cling to is another matter which could quickly be cleared up with a Google search.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:59 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Well that's a hypocritical position. You completely ignore factors like poverty and throw in a baseless association being that the states are in the Bible belt. So what? If the non-Bible belt states had this level of poverty, the crime would go up there too. Besides you do have non-Bible belt areas which are crime havens like Baltimore. Just take a look at the stats here. Hey look, District of Columbia is near the bottom for poverty. And no surprise, Washington DC is a high crime area, once known as the murder capitol.

https://talkpoverty.org/poverty/

The evidence is clear. Christianity has NOTHING to do with crime stats. This is the great lie of atheists. Blaming every single problem on Christians and pretending like they are the higher moral ground.
Wait, what's the title of this thread again? Who started it?

You are really quite an interesting specimen.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Pointless and irrelevant. Most Americans would not claim to be atheist. That doesn't mean they are actually Christians. So of course a minority population (in other words, the VAST majority of the world thinks atheist is LIE) is not going to make up a majority of prison population.
FYI, Americans have no problem saying what religion (or non-religion) they are. According to the following link, as of 2014, 22.8% of the U.S. population say that they are religiously unaffiliated, atheists made up 3.1% and agnostics made up 4% of the U.S. population. (I am agnostic, btw, and somewhat even proud of that, as it shows that I have an open mind.)

https://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/...ous-landscape/

Btw, you never did answer the question as to why MOST of the prison population claim to be Christian. According to the following, about 66% claim to be Christian.

https://www.pewforum.org/2012/03/22/...haplains-exec/
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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Wait, what's the title of this thread again? Who started it?

You are really quite an interesting specimen.
Right?

Jeffbase: *Claims atheism is the cause in a rise in suicides*

Also Jeffbase: You can't say that just because there are a lot of Christians in these terribly impoverished and crime ridden areas that Christianity is to blame! And look at these other places that aren't in the Bible belt that also have high crime! *Leaves out the fact that these places are still majority religious, and the fact that it ruins his terribly thought out OP even further*
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Right?

Jeffbase: *Claims atheism is the cause in a rise in suicides*

Also Jeffbase: You can't say that just because there are a lot of Christians in these terribly impoverished and crime ridden areas that Christianity is to blame! And look at these other places that aren't in the Bible belt that also have high crime! *Leaves out the fact that these places are still majority religious, and the fact that it ruins his terribly thought out OP even further*
Jeff often starts these little wars and then whines.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Jeff often starts these little wars and then whines.
If so, I suspect that he just likes to create discord between people. Very un-Christian, wouldn't you agree?
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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Really? Yet again, really?

If YOU have an opinion, it is on YOU to establish that your opinion is correct. Your opinion is not assumed to be factual unless someone else can prove it is not.

This misconception of yours that you continue to cling to is another matter which could quickly be cleared up with a Google search.
And exactly how is that possible when I am dealing with a group that has a track record of auto-rejecting any kind of evidence that supports Christianity? Their ego will not allow an atheist to be humble and admit they are wrong.

I supported my opinion with links of evidence. You rejected because you HAVE to. Predictable as always.
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Old 08-14-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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If so, I suspect that he just likes to create discord between people. Very un-Christian, wouldn't you agree?
Jeff likes to play victim. That is his "thing". He says dumb stuff, people call him out on it, and then he rants and whines about how everyone hates Christians, and they are being persecuted, blah blah blah. I think, that he thinks it gives him brownie points with God or something. Personally, I think he just has a persecution complex, and thinks he has to feel "persecuted" to be a true Christian. Quite sad.
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