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An alarming trend was revealed yesterday. Despite medical advances and lower deaths by heart disease and cancer, the US life expectancy dropped after years and years of going up. Suicide is a big part of the problem, and the suicide rate has now hit a 50 year high.
This is the world atheism and secularism as created. More division, more hopeless, more conflict, less tolerance and less empathy. People have bought into the lie that there is no God, and no purpose to live. We are merely souless flesh and bone here to consume resources then die and rot. The vast majority of us will be completely forgotten from the next generations that get their turn at living.
And the research has shown a direct link between atheism and suicide.
That's the bed you made, so now you can get to lie in it. It is just sad that atheists dedicate so much time out of the few short decades we get in life into tearing down an institution that gives hope and healing to the masses.
Back in the day, the children and adults of Protestants were killing themselves through suicide at far higher rates than Catholics. That is where the study of epidemiology started. The trend seems to have continued (or at least resurfacing) in 2012. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...holics/254547/
There's the bed you made.
Furthermore,
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Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events[conflicts?] were found.
Seems more like what one would expect from the oppressed fleeing their oppressors into the complete wild. That would, of course, be ex-Christians who didn't find a good way out. Although I've heard that atheists do find it harder to keep their children from drugs, since lies and fear work wonders in keeping children in line and the atheists would have little recourse or motivation in that regard.
Atheists would have to gain as much power and tax-exemptions and filing-exemptions as religious clubs in order to be compared evenly in terms of their public health benefits.
AND WHAT exactly was happening 50-60 years ago that suicide rates were comparable to today's?
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An alarming trend was revealed yesterday. Despite medical advances and lower deaths by heart disease and cancer, the US life expectancy dropped after years and years of going up. Suicide is a big part of the problem, and the suicide rate has now hit a 50 year high.
'Financial struggles, a widening income gap and divisive politics are all casting a pall over many Americans, he suggested. "I really do believe that people are increasingly hopeless, and that that leads to drug use, it leads potentially to suicide," he said.'
Who killed Obama care? That is correct, the current government supported by the religious right.
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This is the world atheism and secularism as created. More division, more hopeless, more conflict, less tolerance and less empathy. People have bought into the lie that there is no God, and no purpose to live. We are merely souless flesh and bone here to consume resources then die and rot. The vast majority of us will be completely forgotten from the next generations that get their turn at living.
If you need to lie for your religion, then your religion is worthless. Did you not think that it would be a better idea to actually read the link you posted instead of just inventing things?
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And the research has shown a direct link between atheism and suicide.
It has not shown a link, it has shown a correlation. Correlation does not mean causation.
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That's the bed you made, so now you can get to lie in it. It is just sad that atheists dedicate so much time out of the few short decades we get in life into tearing down an institution that gives hope and healing to the masses.
Unless you are gay; need condoms in South Africa; on the wrong side of the Sunni / Shia divide; are a Christian or atheist in a Muslim country; are a Muslim or atheist in a Christian country; think flying planes into buildings is a moral act, ect.
Well no - you cant. You had a "near" death experience. Therefore you did not die. Therefore you have no authority whatsoever to discuss the experience - or lack of it - of the dead. The clue is quite literally in the name.
As another user used to say quite comically - an NDE is about as relevant as an experience of death as walking up to an airplane and not boarding it is an experience of a sun-holiday away in Spain.
And this is why I'm seriously thinking about abandoning the CD forum. You don't know me. I don't know you. Why the vitriol? Yuck. Are you that invested in your own opinion that you can't consider the honest sharing of another human being?
And this is why I'm seriously thinking about abandoning the CD forum. You don't know me. I don't know you. Why the vitriol? Yuck. Are you that invested in your own opinion that you can't consider the honest sharing of another human being?
And there's this: You're wrong. LOL.
First and foremost, I am very sorry for the loss of your husband.
But you did join this discussion (which accuses atheists of singlehandedly increasing the rate of suicides) and state "with authority" that your husband's beliefs... and by extension, the beliefs of many people here... were flat-out wrong. In the absence of any verifiable evidence (and personal anecdotes do not constitute such evidence), you should probably expect to be challenged on that view. Some might argue that unchallenged claims of an afterlife are one of the reasons that so many unsubstantiated beliefs have taken root in our society, with ill effect.
The above offered merely as observation, without an ounce of vitriol.
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