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Old 10-18-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Since we as mortals can only see our little world.
God sees billions of lives, before, now and after that his decisions will affect.
I say God chose correctly in every instance.
Me, too...I have no doubt about it.
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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The world has always rejected Jesus and what he taught. They killed him. There are 2 sides to every coin--The teachings of entering Gods kingdom, or perishing with this world are the 2 sides brought by Jesus.
Missing my point.
It is the delivery from many Christians that turn people off...the exact opposite of what the intent was.
I'm trying to help here..not mocking the message.

Here: A good car salesman knows he must have the customer absolutely fall in love
with a car and believe they can't live without it.
However, the price tag is $85,000. Ok.
But he doesn't start out with the first sentence being ..."This is such a great car, it's gonna cost a lot, tho, $85,000...and it also uses a lot of gas."
They haven't even sat in it to smell the leather...they will say - ''Next."
(The car at the other place is the same color and costs $40,000.)
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:18 PM
 
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Since we as mortals can only see our little world. God sees billions of lives, before, now and after that his decisions will affect. I say God chose correctly in every instance.
I have to sort-of-agree.

If there is a god that knows it all, then its safe to assume he made this verse as best he could. Making man from hydrogen, which is actually a set of particle interactions that we call "hydrogen", was pretty darn impressive.

people inserting "How i feel about suffering" doesn't mean it wasn't made the best way it could. making it this way doesn't imply that it loves any less than it can.

What the observations do show is that the biblegod, in a literal sense, is far less valid.
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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"I say God chose correctly in every instance."
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I have to sort-of-agree.
Good! So far that's 3 of us.
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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Which Jesus. The one that says he is God, the one that says he is the son of God, or the one who says he is the son of a god that is not Yahweh?

And this is just from the NT.

I have read many translations. Jesus never said--I am God. And never said he was the son of a god. Twisting what he said does.
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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Except if we as mortals can only see our little world, you can not claim your god sees billions of lives, before, now and after that his decisions will affect.

Which is it? We can only see our little world, or YOU SOMEHOW KNOW your god sees billions of lives, before, now and after that his decisions will affect?



Are you just inventing this as you go along?


There are a few on earth that know God. Few. I erred using we obviously--Only 99% don't know God.
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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There are a few on earth that know God. Few.
That is very correct...
and those that do know, know it was some sort of blessing from on High --- a grace beyond anything
they could have ever even asked for.


Oh, btw, that orange is very very hard to read. If you like that color try Bolding it.
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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Just like you reject Muhammad? Or that Chinese god that kills his enemies by eructation?
I know Mohammed( sinner) was real. A grave error by a mortal placing a sinner above Gods own son. The Chinese God does not exist or at best is satan posing as that God. I believe he poses as all the false gods. Noahs day showed mortals how easily deceived they are. As then, the same now-99% mislead.
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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1. You listen to anyone you want. But give other people the freedom of choice as well.

2. This is a forum about religion, not a praise forum. If you want a praise forum, go up to the christianity sub-forum.

3. So, Jesus is a dictator. Glad you clarified that.

4. Personally, I feel that what you preach is Satan's plan...presuming there is a Satan...or god.

Yes God gave all free will. Jesus is Gods image. Including the image of the God in the OT. He shared Gods loving side with us in the NT, at Har-mageddon they will see the war God of the OT in Jesus.
Not a dictator, a loving friend to those that obey. Not obey from fear but from Love. a dictator is obeyed from fear.
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There are a few on earth that know God. Few. I erred using we obviously--Only 99% don't know God.
But of course, you're one of the special ones.
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