Link Found Between Religious Fundamentalism And Brain Damage

[LargeKingCat]

I checked the Neuropsychologia website ran a scan for the author (Grafman) and found no article. The link that you sent is to SALON, a less than reputable website.

If the article IS on Neuropsychologia then I am not finding it. It may be there but it is not easy to access I would like to read it


Neuropsychologia is a peer reviewed journal. The comments about fake news are funny...what has the Bible been giving out all these years? Fake News !!!!!

There could be a valid point though. Many religious fundamentalists exhibit a degree of addiction and addictive behavior. But instead of being addicted to drugs, they are addicted to religious activities. Not to suggest that Everyone who attends a service is addicted, but for the few % who are, fundamentalism is more fulfilling to the cortex than a less intense religious experience would be.

Of course, we have case study after case study of the correlation between religious fundamentalism and religious addiction and Psychological illness, but this article is suggesting a neuro-psychiatric link. Which sounds interesting, if I can find it.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by LargeKingCat

I checked the Neuropsychologia website ran a scan for the author (Grafman) and found no article. The link that you sent is to SALON, a less than reputable website.

If the article IS on Neuropsychologia then I am not finding it. It may be there but it is not easy to access I would like to read it


Neuropsychologia is a peer reviewed journal. The comments about fake news are funny...what has the Bible been giving out all these years? Fake News !!!!!

There could be a valid point though. Many religious fundamentalists exhibit a degree of addiction and addictive behavior. But instead of being addicted to drugs, they are addicted to religious activities. Not to suggest that Everyone who attends a service is addicted, but for the few % who are, fundamentalism is more fulfilling to the cortex than a less intense religious experience would be.

Of course, we have case study after case study of the correlation between religious fundamentalism and religious addiction and Psychological illness, but this article is suggesting a neuro-psychiatric link. Which sounds interesting, if I can find it.

Neuropsychologia
Volume 100, June 2017, Pages 18-25

[Matadora]

This is the 3rd time I'm posting the actual study.

Biological and cognitive underpinnings of religious fundamentalism

[Rafius]

Originally Posted by n..Xuipa

and you would hold me accountable for other men sins against God and man thousand of years ago ?

Assuming you are addressing my post, no, I do not hold you accountable. What I'm holding you to account for is your claim that Christianity has turned the world on it's head for 2000 years...presumably because it is true. I'm pointing out that Christianity has become the dominant religion on our planet, not because it was true but because, for some 1500 years the people's choice was ...convert or die!

I am not responsible for other mens God given liberty .. nor does it make me wish To give up my own liberty so that you or anyone can control other peoples liberty sir!

I haven't asked you to do that. All I have asked you to do is to tell me how, if people are going to have free-will in your heaven, they are not going to make choices that will conflict with what they are supposed to do there.

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For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

Gal 5:14

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Gal 5:15

But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

Gal 5:16

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This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Gal 5:17

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Gal 5:18

But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Gal 5:19

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Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Gal 5:20

Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Gal 5:21

Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Gal 5:22

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[b]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Gal 5:23

More useless bible verses.

. and like that Jesus and Stephan. Now those are real men and real brave men.... these are God's goals.. if men gave rome power that is about their day! and thus will be settled out in his courts and before his throne Yes their judgement day..
.. But I will not be there .. I am not responsible for them, they all had liberty and will be judged as will we all.. to see what we have done with that liberty( rev 22:11) we all have been given ! that is the parable of the talents .. what did you do with the gift s He gave you!
and someday a place will be made for all who have overcome their base and selfish ways to control others and they created more liberty with that valuable gift He gave to everyone! everyone has rights over their own minds and their own beliefs and the own deeds....

By and through God He will help us to overcome our own humanistic greed that has a need to seek power and to control others. it is the baseness of our sins... because only the meek and the peacemaker will inherit the earth next time .

now the greedy get it .. of both religion and the anti-religious, But since the first bite..., all who have obtained power are in some way the greedy and controlling or will be shortly .. and that has nothing to do with me or his wWord ..

what WAS that has nothing to do with me..
I only offer truth I have learned for anyone who wishes to learn about other's people concepts and the true goals of God ..
to learn of God and his word and all the lessons we have learned through our life.
if you reject it that is your right to do that..
but it is also my right to speak it! and so I will only if I want too or if God asks me too. because he believes in my liberty as his child also!!

...and this is just, well, gobbledegook!

Originally Posted by jghorton

Isn't that the truth! -- Otherwise, why protest so vigorously against something they do not believe is real??

Same reason you would fight so vigorously if your government proposed to give Hinduism, Islam, Zoroastrianism or a dozen other religions the same rights that Christianity enjoys.

I don't see a lot of Santa Clause or Easter Bunny-atheists railing against those make believe characters.

That's because Santa and Easter Bunny worshippers are not trying to force their beliefs into our places of learning and into our governments. That's because Santa and Easter Bunny worshippers were not trying get laws passed based on what they think Santa and the Easter Bunny wants us to do..

Yet, when it comes to Bible Truth, Jesus Christ, God and faith, they are helplessly unable to simply not believe!

That's right! We are not simply able to believe. It's similar to you not being able to operate on logic, reason and common sense.

There is an enormous amount of verifiable, empirical evidence that the Bible is indeed God's inspired Word of truth (literary, archaeological, science, etc).

So you have claimed many times but many times you fail to produce this verifiable, empirical evidence that you claim exists. Tell you what. Give us your best five examples of verifiable, empirical evidence that the bible is true and let's go from there.

[Arach Angle]

Originally Posted by LargeKingCat

I checked the Neuropsychologia website ran a scan for the author (Grafman) and found no article. The link that you sent is to SALON, a less than reputable website.

If the article IS on Neuropsychologia then I am not finding it. It may be there but it is not easy to access I would like to read it


Neuropsychologia is a peer reviewed journal. The comments about fake news are funny...what has the Bible been giving out all these years? Fake News !!!!!

There could be a valid point though. Many religious fundamentalists exhibit a degree of addiction and addictive behavior. But instead of being addicted to drugs, they are addicted to religious activities. Not to suggest that Everyone who attends a service is addicted, but for the few % who are, fundamentalism is more fulfilling to the cortex than a less intense religious experience would be.

Of course, we have case study after case study of the correlation between religious fundamentalism and religious addiction and Psychological illness, but this article is suggesting a neuro-psychiatric link. Which sounds interesting, if I can find it.

either way, we can process the information in a reasonable manor. they looked at soldiers with ptsd. Its should be of little surprise that people with issues express beliefs in an "irrational" manor.

people that suffered trauma will act different than people that didn't experience trauma. we see this every day. the way these people will express a belief may be seen as an intense expression of a belief or an irrational defence of a belief.

we see this in people that suffered a trauma by a religious person or a person that has suffered a perceived trauma from religion. They have very intense reactions that go past, what would be considered rational, to defend or fight anything that they perceive to related to religion. Anything they deem "spiritual" is met with aggression and all lines of logic that are deployed are directly against the perceived 'wrong" as opposed to addressing the claims themselves.

I kind wish the data suggested that it's all religion fault. It would make my life easier that is for sure. Its just that the universe doesn't work that way and there is no rule that states the universe has to work the way I want or be easier.

This study demonstrates what I, and others, have been saying. sick people have sick expression of belief. weather its god or or how they keep their lawn. Its just that religion offers a lense to concentrate, or amplify, the expression more than atheism.

religion is like a convex lense in the sun. it can burn us. Atheism is ore like a convex lense, it dilutes the effect. yeah, I know weak. This study is an experience that sheds like on people intentions. How it is deployed is an indicator of people's end game. we each can decide if its meaningful or not.

maybe we can address how each of us reacts to the study. That would be cool too.

[LargeKingCat]

Originally Posted by Matadora

This is the 3rd time I'm posting the actual study.

Biological and cognitive underpinnings of religious fundamentalism

THANK YOU

Third Time is the charm I guess

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by LargeKingCat

THANK YOU

Third Time is the charm I guess

My pleasure.

I also posted other links that correlate with the findings in the actual study. I'll post them again since they were inserted in a few separate posts.

Neural correlates of a mystical experience in Carmelite nuns

Neural correlates of mystical experience

Analytic Thinking Promotes Religious Disbelief

God and the Government: Testing a Compensatory Control Mechanism forthe Support of External Systems

I prefer to read the primary sources for any story in the news...which leads me to the actual studies mentioned in online news stories. A lot of people find published papers difficult to read, however once you become accustomed to their layout and style it becomes easy to read them. For people who don't want to read the entire studies they can jump directly to the discussion section of the paper.