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Ten pages of hilarity, and some very disturbing notions proffered up by the delusional believers. I left the world of religion early in my life, around age fourteen if I remember correctly, and now, almost sixty years later, I realize not much has changed. It's still the parade ground of crazy mystics and the truly terrified. I'm relieved that I was able to extricate myself from that nonsense, and yes, I'm still treating others well and have no evil in my heart.
Ten pages of hilarity, and some very disturbing notions proffered up by the delusional believers. I left the world of religion early in my life, around age fourteen if I remember correctly, and now, almost sixty years later, I realize not much has changed. It's still the parade ground of crazy mystics and the truly terrified. I'm relieved that I was able to extricate myself from that nonsense, and yes, I'm still treating others well and have no evil in my heart.
On behalf of all of us crazy mystics, best wishes.
Ten pages of hilarity, and some very disturbing notions proffered up by the delusional believers. I left the world of religion early in my life, around age fourteen if I remember correctly, and now, almost sixty years later, I realize not much has changed. It's still the parade ground of crazy mystics and the truly terrified. I'm relieved that I was able to extricate myself from that nonsense, and yes, I'm still treating others well and have no evil in my heart.
I was atheist at age 9, or at least very young. But i just didn't believe the stuff. I had normal crazy theist parents so i never blamed religion. I don't see people that leave religion at that age still have venom. did something happen?
But if I did blame religion for things, i would have to blame it for making my parents good parents.
I was atheist at age 9, or at least very young. But i just didn't believe the stuff. I had normal crazy theist parents so i never blamed religion. I don't see people that leave religion at that age still have venom. did something happen?
But if I did blame religion for things, i would have to blame it for making my parents good parents.
Odd, I had parents that never spoke of religious things, not a Bible in the house...and my parents
were NOT good parents in, Oh, so many ways.
And at age 8 had my first STE...Spiritually Transformative or Transcendental Exp..and Oh my...
all alone on a summer country day. Rocked MY world.
Odd, I had parents that never spoke of religious things, not a Bible in the house...and my parents
were NOT good parents in, Oh, so many ways.
And at age 8 had my first STE...Spiritually Transformative or Transcendental Exp..and Oh my...
all alone on a summer country day. Rocked MY world.
We are direct opposites! Lol.
Read so many things from so many people that did not have good childhoods that it makes me wonder about the correlation/ causation of subsequent beliefs
I was atheist at age 9, or at least very young. But i just didn't believe the stuff. I had normal crazy theist parents so i never blamed religion. I don't see people that leave religion at that age still have venom. did something happen?
But if I did blame religion for things, i would have to blame it for making my parents good parents.
I don't think the term "blame" would suffice in my case. My mother was brought into her frame of religion early in her life, Baptist or Methodist I believe, in my case it was that I was young and couldn't relate to the seemingly dark aspects of a revengeful god, hyper judgmental clerics, phony moralists, not to mention the fact that we (kids) just wanted to play outside and have a fun time.
As an adult, I just never went back. I've been married to religious women, and don't have any problem with that. I don't want to put down anyone's beliefs, as in telling them to stop going to church, or stop believing. But---I expect the same courtesy in return, and usually don't get it We all need something to lean on, so, there's no blame in my view. I'm happy, and so is my Christian wife so it's all good.
Odd, I had parents that never spoke of religious things, not a Bible in the house...and my parents
were NOT good parents in, Oh, so many ways.
And at age 8 had my first STE...Spiritually Transformative or Transcendental Exp..and Oh my...
all alone on a summer country day. Rocked MY world.
We are direct opposites! Lol.
that's actually my point Miss H.
so my good parents were from religion and your bad parents were from no religion?
the problem with evil means there is the problem with goodness.
But, let me be clear, you know my real belief ... good parents and bad parents are independent of belief.
But, I am forced, by my nature, to explore every claim made by people. How I wish I could just follow blind faith in "deny everything due to a fear of religion." they have it so much easier not having to think.
claims that hold true under more conditions are more valid than those that don't.
"deny everything" is just so invalid that only fundy-think type atheist can buy into it.
I don't think the term "blame" would suffice in my case. My mother was brought into her frame of religion early in her life, Baptist or Methodist I believe, in my case it was that I was young and couldn't relate to the seemingly dark aspects of a revengeful god, hyper judgmental clerics, phony moralists, not to mention the fact that we (kids) just wanted to play outside and have a fun time.
As an adult, I just never went back. I've been married to religious women, and don't have any problem with that. I don't want to put down anyone's beliefs, as in telling them to stop going to church, or stop believing. But---I expect the same courtesy in return, and usually don't get it We all need something to lean on, so, there's no blame in my view. I'm happy, and so is my Christian wife so it's all good.
yeah, I see that. I just don't see the things you described being a problem with religion as much as its a problem with people. For every person you describe as "bad" I see at least one that is good.
You seem to understand that if a person is rational and understanding you can "live" with them. If they are not, you may have problem with them. Like you pointed out, in the end, it has nothing to do with their beliefs.
The biblegod is better than the inkblot test in showing us a given brain state. You can ask my 11year old to describe me when I don't give her what she wants. is that truely me?
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Lol.
