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Old 02-22-2019, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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I've always felt that if there actually was a god, which, obviously, there isn't, that he or she or it should be tried, convicted and executed for crimes against humanity. A view, BTW, I've never seen any reason to modify.

Life on earth is one bucket of pureed misery, including mankind and the animal kingdom.
bible god should be tried and executed for crimes against the universe, humanity and animals. So glad I'm not Christian and don't believe the sick, delusional disgusting nonsense.
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Old 02-23-2019, 01:33 AM
 
Location: NSW
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bible god should be tried and executed for crimes against the universe, humanity and animals. So glad I'm not Christian and don't believe the sick, delusional disgusting nonsense.
Maybe, more so for the crimes against humanity after death, if this eternal Hell is indeed real.
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Old 02-23-2019, 01:36 AM
 
Location: NSW
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You have no proof that Hitler was not a Christian. Nor do you have any evidence that we should be concerned about an after life. If there is an afterlife
This may answer your question.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWBovyyC6Vg
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Old 02-23-2019, 04:50 AM
 
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Most Christians seem to have an abusive nature, even though they will always struggle in their ongoing conformity and sanctification. They expect EVERYONE else to be that way. If anyone rejects that attitude, then they must be eternally lost.
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Old 02-23-2019, 05:34 AM
 
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If this is the extent of God's abilities then He better resign and put somebody more qualified in charge.
You said he didn't do anything. I said maybe he is doing what can be done.

weather we think its enough is another discussion.
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Old 02-23-2019, 05:38 AM
 
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That's the whole point of deism. God may desperately want good things for the human race but He has deliberately chosen to stay completely out of it. From my observations of human development He kick-started the evolutionary cycle from two atoms coming together to start the building process of the first cell, kept everything going until the first hominids were sufficiently developed to make a go of it on their own and then dropped out of sight. Hasn't been heard from since.

So nobody denies men can be evil but the fact that society has managed to flourish and multiply as it as to close to 8 billion people now aptly demonstrates that man has been doing just fine without God's interference. The natural laws He put into place work just fine most of the time. 95% of us are pretty healthy and we give birth to 95% pretty healthy babies. We're destroying the planet, true, but that is for the people 100 years from now to deal with, not us. My only question in all this is why in the hell God created us anyway? Just to get old, suffer and then die? What's the point? I can't believe we evolved on our own. The odds are too astronomically against such a proposition. On the order of 10 to the 150th power or some such insane odds. So why?
I don't think we know enough to claim it deliberately stays out of it. I don't think it "kick started" life and then left. I guess its as good a claim as the biblegod, but its not even close to the best claim we can come up with.

why would I even consider that type of god with absolutely no evidence of it?
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Old 02-23-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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This may answer your question.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWBovyyC6Vg
I don't think a YouTube video is the ultimate authority. Otherwise I would need to believe the Earth is flat, in Bigfoot and that the 70s Cadillac was the most comfortable car to drive. If one has no believe in a Hell then the beginning of the video did not lay out the case for one. I have read academics articles on if Hitler was still a Christian or a non believer and I think that is still open for discussion. Labelling Hitler as an atheist always seems like an extremely poor attempt the place his madness onto a group that one doesn't like, much like Hitler himself scapegoated the Jews.
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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I don't think we know enough to claim it deliberately stays out of it. I don't think it "kick started" life and then left. I guess its as good a claim as the biblegod, but its not even close to the best claim we can come up with.

why would I even consider that type of god with absolutely no evidence of it?

Here's my rationale: for life to evolve on it's own starting from just two molecules coming together in the ocean and then about 3 trillion or so of them assembling in just the right order to form a dead cell are on the order of 10 to the 150th power. A figure that immense is beyond chance. It is impossible as any mathematician will tell you


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So the number of molecules in a typical human cell is somewhere between 5 million and 2 trillion, probably closer to the higher end of this range as human cells are roughly half water (85% of the human body is water, 60% of this is inside cells).
Now we have to get 37 trillion of these cells arranged in just the right order to make a human body.



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Scientists concluded that the average human body contains approximately 37.2 trillion cells!
But we still have a dead body and only a male body, no female. What sparked life into that dead body? And the female would have to evolve over millions of years to procreate with the male and both would have died out after a single lifetime. It's just not possible for male and female to have evolved with procreative abilities in a single lifetime to carry on the human species. And given the hostile environment whatever came out would have been devoured in an instant. I reason humans got here by one of two methods: either thousands of them stepped off a spaceship to seed the earth or a being much more powerful than us jump-started the whole thing. But we haven't heard from either since, so whoever started all this is deliberately staying out of it or they would be communicating with us regularly. That's as far as my rational mind takes me.
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Location: USA
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...I reason humans got here by one of two methods: either thousands of them stepped off a spaceship to seed the earth or a being much more powerful than us jump-started the whole thing. But we haven't heard from either since, so whoever started all this is deliberately staying out of it or they would be communicating with us regularly. That's as far as my rational mind takes me.
Or we haven't heard from God/whom/whatever in the way we expect or perhaps want to. That doesn't mean God/it's not communicating. Maybe we (generally speaking) just haven't yet figured out how to receive the communication or even what to be on the lookout for. Perhaps, for some of us, our conscience and perhaps intuitive moments are the most we're wired to receive. That does not equate to God being absent.
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Old 02-23-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Or we haven't heard from God/whom/whatever in the way we expect or perhaps want to. That doesn't mean God/it's not communicating. Maybe we (generally speaking) just haven't yet figured out how to receive the communication or even what to be on the lookout for. Perhaps, for some of us, our conscience and perhaps intuitive moments are the most we're wired to receive. That does not equate to God being absent.
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