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Old 02-27-2019, 06:45 AM
 
Location: TX
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It's like pulling teeth with you people. (gives cookie)
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Old 02-27-2019, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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It's like pulling teeth with you people. (gives cookie)
What's the problem. BibleJesus I do not believe existed. Rebel rabbi I don't care.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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(Regarding the Gospels): Define "unreliable"...
It was easy for me to test for myself many things in the NT...
I took some points that they said Jesus said....sometimes Paul...and for 2 weeks I did what they said, advised, suggested,
clued us into or as guidance for making our life here on earth 'work' or be better, or just 'do'.
That was 13 years ago (1st time I opened a Bible)...and I haven't stopped because they worked!!!
So unreliable can simply be tested in many, many ways....about many things suggested.

That is my official statement.
I am still not a Christian...but I am willing to test things ...from Buddha, too....
still not a Buddhist, either...
I respect great Teachers when they say things...I practice some things to see for myself....
and Buddha had it goin' on....so did Krishna...and Dr. Phil ain't bad either!
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Define "unreliable" because I have a feeling you're doing so in a way you shouldn't.



This is simply making an exception for the gospels (likely for the sake of your agenda) that historians do not apply to history of that era in general. Within a generation or two of the events is considered fairly early, and most history isn't written by eye witnesses. Refer again to the biographies of Alexander the Great.
So let me ask you:

Let's say that 2,000 years from now there was only one book left about the whole Civil War era, and it was written by Jefferson Davis. Do you think that one book would represent an accurate depiction of the Civil War era?

Because really, that's what you are relying on -- one book -- the bible -- as accurately depicting the life of a person.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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As in not everything in them is historical, or as in nothing in them is historical?



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You just defined the unreliability aspect.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Let's say that 2,000 years from now there was only one book left about the whole Civil War era, and it was written by Jefferson Davis.
Do you think that one book would represent an accurate depiction of the Civil War era?

Because really, that's what you are relying on -- one book -- the bible -- as accurately depicting the life of a person.
Wanted to stress that ...
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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So let me ask you:

Let's say that 2,000 years from now there was only one book left about the whole Civil War era, and it was written by Jefferson Davis. Do you think that one book would represent an accurate depiction of the Civil War era?

Because really, that's what you are relying on -- one book -- the bible -- as accurately depicting the life of a person.
It's even worse than that, because the gospels don't even have authors on the copies. So it'd be like a single book on the Civil War by "Anonymous".
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Old 02-27-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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It's even worse than that, because the gospels don't even have authors on the copies. So it'd be like a single book on the Civil War by "Anonymous".
The Bible is NOT a single book. It is a compilation of many separate books from many many others that were not selected - 66 in the protestant collection and 73 in the Catholic collection. When you reject the historical relevance of the Bible you are rejecting many separate ancient writings.
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Old 02-27-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The Bible is NOT a single book. It is a compilation of many separate books from many many others that were not selected - 66 in the protestant collection and 73 in the Catholic collection. When you reject the historical relevance of the Bible you are rejecting many separate ancient writings.
I would call them essays, not books.
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Old 02-27-2019, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The Bible is NOT a single book. It is a compilation of many separate books from many many others that were not selected - 66 in the protestant collection and 73 in the Catholic collection. When you reject the historical relevance of the Bible you are rejecting many separate ancient writings.
The Bible is utter nonsense, global floods and all.
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