The Biblical god Is No Better Than An Abusive Husband (Isaiah, hell)

[thrillobyte]

Anybody notice how the Biblical god shares so many attributes with an abusive husband it's practically impossible to tell the difference? One of the many hallmarks of an abusive husband is wrath followed almost immediately by pity and remorse for what he's done. "Return to me, for I have redeemed thee".

In one moment an abusive husband tells his wife how much he loves her--how she means the world to him--and then when she innocently says something or does something that would be completely innocuous to a normal person, in the abusive husband it triggers an abnormal reaction that any normal, well-adjusted person would find completely inexplicable. The husband out of nowhere punches, kicks, slaps and throttles his spouse and then, as she lay bleeding, half-conscious on the floor in a heap, says sorrowfully to her, "Darling, I hate doing that to you, I really do. Why do you force me to beat you that way?"

How is the Biblical god any different? In one moment he tells us how much he loves us, how we mean the world to him and then for a senseless thought crime like not trusting in Jesus for forgiveness of our sins he throws us into hell with, "Depart from me ye cursed into everlasting flames prepared for the devil and his minions for I told you to believe in my son so that you would not perish in eternal fire and ye would not do it. But don't feel bad, I do this with tears in my eyes. Remember, I'll always love you!"

So one moment it's "I love you" and the next moment it's "Depart from me, ye cursed!" Does that sound like a schizophrenic psychopath or doesn't it?

The normal person would find torturing their spouse for years on end while telling them how much they love them to be about the most heinous thing a person could do but for the Christian god to torture his spouse/child for eternity it's business as usual: "Hey, I got no problem with that, as long as you say and do EXACTLY what I tell you!"

Here are eight indicators of a domestic bully. How many of you can honestly say, "That sounds like the god of the Bible."

*Bullies, threatens, or controls you Matthew 25:41
*Accuses you of having an affair 1 Kings 14:15
*Blames you for abuse 2 Kings 17:19-20
*Criticizes you Isaiah 64:6
*Tells you what to wear and how you should look Leviticus, Isaiah 3:16-23
*Threatens to kill you or someone close to you Numbers 14:36-38
*Throws things or punches walls when angry Numbers 21:4-9
*Yells at you and tells you you are his property 1Corinthians 6:20
*Extremely jealous when you glance at other men Exodus 20:5

This is but a small exposé of what the Biblical god is really like underneath all that "love".

[Arach Angle]

an abusive biblegod is as much as a fairytale as an all loving god trill.

[fishbrains]

Sounds like an apt comparison to me.

[turkeydance]

the god depicted in the Old Testament was vengeful.
the god depicted in the New Testament was forgiving.

my point: there are 2 Biblical Gods.
the advancing morality of the Hebrews led to the overthrow of vengefulness.
of course, they did not understand and rejected a New Way of looking at life.
the Christos followers acknowledged their pagan past and rejoiced in an alternative.

bottom line:an abuser (any kind, including a wife) is stuck in the past where only condemnation lives.

[elyn02]

An abusive spouse is worse because these people actually do exist. But the comparison is spot on.

[Open-D]

Originally Posted by thrillobyte

Anybody notice how the Biblical god shares so many attributes with an abusive husband it's practically impossible to tell the difference? One of the many hallmarks of an abusive husband is wrath followed almost immediately by pity and remorse for what he's done. "Return to me, for I have redeemed thee".

In one moment an abusive husband tells his wife how much he loves her--how she means the world to him--and then when she innocently says something or does something that would be completely innocuous to a normal person, in the abusive husband it triggers an abnormal reaction that any normal, well-adjusted person would find completely inexplicable. The husband out of nowhere punches, kicks, slaps and throttles his spouse and then, as she lay bleeding, half-conscious on the floor in a heap, says sorrowfully to her, "Darling, I hate doing that to you, I really do. Why do you force me to beat you that way?"

How is the Biblical god any different? In one moment he tells us how much he loves us, how we mean the world to him and then for a senseless thought crime like not trusting in Jesus for forgiveness of our sins he throws us into hell with, "Depart from me ye cursed into everlasting flames prepared for the devil and his minions for I told you to believe in my son so that you would not perish in eternal fire and ye would not do it. But don't feel bad, I do this with tears in my eyes. Remember, I'll always love you!"

So one moment it's "I love you" and the next moment it's "Depart from me, ye cursed!" Does that sound like a schizophrenic psychopath or doesn't it?

The normal person would find torturing their spouse for years on end while telling them how much they love them to be about the most heinous thing a person could do but for the Christian god to torture his spouse/child for eternity it's business as usual: "Hey, I got no problem with that, as long as you say and do EXACTLY what I tell you!"

Here are eight indicators of a domestic bully. How many of you can honestly say, "That sounds like the god of the Bible."

*Bullies, threatens, or controls you Matthew 25:41
*Accuses you of having an affair 1 Kings 14:15
*Blames you for abuse 2 Kings 17:19-20
*Criticizes you Isaiah 64:6
*Tells you what to wear and how you should look Leviticus, Isaiah 3:16-23
*Threatens to kill you or someone close to you Numbers 14:36-38
*Throws things or punches walls when angry Numbers 21:4-9
*Yells at you and tells you you are his property 1Corinthians 6:20
*Extremely jealous when you glance at other men Exodus 20:5

This is but a small exposé of what the Biblical god is really like underneath all that "love".

I've always felt that if there actually was a god, which, obviously, there isn't, that he or she or it should be tried, convicted and executed for crimes against humanity. A view, BTW, I've never seen any reason to modify.

Life on earth is one bucket of pureed misery, including mankind and the animal kingdom.

[Huckleberry3911948]

This is a very good post
The explanation of the behavior in ot is very much the mideastern conception of god
You are right our concept of god must evolve
The Christ very much does that

[Miss Hepburn]

No, not a husband ....a King....much worse.

[thrillobyte]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

This is a very good post
The explanation of the behavior in ot is very much the mideastern conception of god
You are right our concept of god must evolve
The Christ very much does that

The first step is getting Christians to realize that the reason yahweh is so flawed with human traits like jealousy, wrath, indifference, hate, and disgust is precisely because it was humans who possessed these traits who were writing about yahweh, so it was only natural that the early Jews would infuse their own negative emotions into the god they were writing about. I mean doesn't it ever register in Christians minds--are they really that blind to the truth that they cannot even admit to themselves that early in Hebrew lore when Hebrews were still being influenced by far-east religious lore from which Abraham supposedly emerged, that Hebrews actually had a pantheon of gods and yahweh was just one of them--the warlord god who eventually rose to the top of the heap and vanquished all the others.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1450128...o_tab_contents

In the beginning Elohim [plural gods] created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1. Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness..." Genesis 1:26

I mean it's so obvious on its face that god in the earliest chapters of the Bible originally was many gods. As the religion matured its writers turned to monotheism after their brothers in Egypt adopted monotheism.

While the Jewish Yahweh god may have been the main god, it appears other gods were worshiped and accepted by much of the Jewish population. Perhaps one of the starkest indications that monotheism, if it existed at all, would have been limited a very small minority of Jews. During the 8th century BC, archeologists have found evidence that suggests that Yahweh was married or coupled with the goddess Asherah

https://dailyhistory.org/How_did_Monotheism_Develop%3F

Yahweh had a wife. Whoda thunk? Certainly not the Christians. This would bulldoze away a large piece of their theological foundation. So they conveniently bury this under the tons of theistic rubble they concoct to keep their religion looking the way they want it too.

Christians can't stand the truth. They run from it.

[nateswift]

If there were such a thing as a "Biblical God" you would have a point, but what the Bible contains is various perceptions ABOUT God, many of which are contradictory. You need to sharpen your focus.