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I'm trying to quote the sources as much as possible, and nope don't worry about being hanged, in all fairness there should be credit, where credit is due.
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You're presenting extremely elevated concepts which i appreciate very much and i suppose it is, in part, due to my love, gratitude and respect for the great sages, yogis and lineage holders that i feel it's important to acknowledge those that, at least for me, shine the brightest light and greatly aid in our remembrance.
Also, on a more mundane level, recently there have been some writings that i'd like to see more of so it's helpful to reference.
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Thank you. You get integrity merits .
You're presenting extremely elevated concepts which i appreciate very much and i suppose it is, in part, due to my love, gratitude and respect for the great sages, yogis and lineage holders that i feel it's important to acknowledge those that, at least for me, shine the brightest light and greatly aid in our remembrance.
Also, on a more mundane level, recently there have been some writings that i'd like to see more of so it's helpful to reference.
I agree, we should follow the example of the great Rishis (sages) and study their enlightened words and of course meditate on them!!
OM Namo Bhagavate Vaasudevaaya - My most respectful greeting to the supreme personality of Godhead (Krishna)
Bhagavan means Lord, referring to Vishnu. Vasudeva, meaning, “He Who abides in all things and in Whom all things abide,” is a name of Krishna. Krishna is one of the most loved of all deities. He is considered to be a world teacher for he is the source of the Bhagavad-Gita, one of the most popular of all the Eastern religious texts. People are drawn to Krishna because of his playfulness and joyful nature, he is the Christ of India.
Fearlessness; purification of one’s existence; cultivation of spiritual knowledge; charity; self-control; performance of sacrifice; study of the Vedas; austerity; simplicity; nonviolence; truthfulness; freedom from anger; renunciation; tranquillity; aversion to faultfinding; compassion for all living entities; freedom from covetousness; gentleness; modesty; steady determination; vigor; forgiveness; fortitude; cleanliness; and freedom from envy and from the passion for honor—these transcendental qualities, O son of Bharata, belong to godly men endowed with divine nature."
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Thank you for sharing a bit about Hinduism ; but because Jesus Christ claimed to be the actual Creator of the Universe and proved it by a historical ressurection from the dead to which there were over 500 eye witnesses in addition to fulfilling over 400 specific prophecies about himself.... I believe in , follow, and have made Jesus the Lord , Saviour, and King of my life . Because he did these things whatever he said has to be true ; and one of the most emphatic things he ever said was that : He was the way to heaven, the absolute truth, and the life , and that no one would ever get to heaven except thru him alone. This discounts the credibility of all other world religions or philosophies that claim to be the way. Regards.
The very quote you mention has also been defined in the book "A New Earth' by Eckhart Tolle. I recommend you go through this in a book shop. It may radically intensify your thought process.
Amy.
The very quote you mention has also been defined in the book "A New Earth' by Eckhart Tolle. I recommend you go through this in a book shop. It may radically intensify your thought process.
Amy.
I've read a bit of Echart Tolle and respect him although he's not presenting anything new but he makes essential teachings available and/or accessible to a large number of people.
But what i'd like to know is where and how does Eckhart Tolle define that previous quote by IbeDavid about Jesus or Christianity being the only way?
Or what do you mean by "define"?
You're not suggesting that he supports that notion are you?
My understanding is, you have not understood this book. It takes a lot of effort to grasp the meaning and even I was dazed in the first chapter. But I thought I will go to the second chapter before calling it quits. From the second chapter on, reading each sentence slowly, sometimes several times, I came to understand this book.
You are right, he is simply presenting the way of life as is, as every possible 'enlightened' leader could scream off their lungs. It's just that people are too busy to notice and make this small realization. Every religion, every religious person, including Jesus only claimed one path, and that is of peace. "I Am" gets completely defined in a new way in this book. You see it in different light and know what its true meaning is. But if you approach this concept with your guards on, with preconcieved notions, then you will rule it out as crap.
There is no definition per se, but a new way to look at it. You need to read this book like as if you are a child getting a new experience, without resistance. It was tough for me, and I have not changed my thinking or religious practice, but only see more sense in it, and have a sense of peace within. It's not at all tough. This book does not threaten to shake your religious beliefs, but only calm you down and appreciate it even more.
Hope it helps. Don't read this book 'a little bit'. Read it completely. Tolle is not a guru, just a guy who figured it all out and put the basic essence of all religions (which is the same, like it or not) in one book.
My understanding is, you have not understood this book. It takes a lot of effort to grasp the meaning and even I was dazed in the first chapter. But I thought I will go to the second chapter before calling it quits. From the second chapter on, reading each sentence slowly, sometimes several times, I came to understand this book.
You are right, he is simply presenting the way of life as is, as every possible 'enlightened' leader could scream off their lungs. It's just that people are too busy to notice and make this small realization. Every religion, every religious person, including Jesus only claimed one path, and that is of peace. "I Am" gets completely defined in a new way in this book. You see it in different light and know what its true meaning is. But if you approach this concept with your guards on, with preconcieved notions, then you will rule it out as crap.
There is no definition per se, but a new way to look at it. You need to read this book like as if you are a child getting a new experience, without resistance. It was tough for me, and I have not changed my thinking or religious practice, but only see more sense in it, and have a sense of peace within. It's not at all tough. This book does not threaten to shake your religious beliefs, but only calm you down and appreciate it even more.
Hope it helps. Don't read this book 'a little bit'. Read it completely. Tolle is not a guru, just a guy who figured it all out and put the basic essence of all religions (which is the same, like it or not) in one book.
Yes, i know and understand where Tolle is "coming from".
I was just questioning whether or not you were saying that he was supporting that particular fundamentalist Christian stance that ibedavid was espousing and given that i'm familiar with Eckhart Tolle (though i haven't read "The New Earth") i was curious to see how in the world he would have been supporting such dogma. But with this post, i see that this is not what you were saying. phew.
If Christianity is the only valid way of life then that means God let us be wrong for 10s or even 100s of thousands of years. In reality Christ came to try to re-teach spirituality to the people of the area but they would not listen and they killed Him instead. If you say by the name of Jesus only are we saved then do you mean this literally? If you went back in time and called the Man Jesus he wouldnt answer you unless He read your mind, the name Jesus is not how his name was pronounced--it is an English word. You will find the Man's name is pronounced different everywhere so which one is the true name. I think the Lord let this happen to keep the holy name from being desicrated and profaned. How many went to war using this Jesus name? Also Jesus as you call Him was a vegetarian and he tought other things that the Church conveniently dropped because the Roman barbarians wanted to continue their lives of sin. How many versions of Christianity are there? And they all seem to say they are the true one. I do not think this man would even recognize his contribution if He came back, most of His teachings are ignored and the Christian world has become violent and aggressive.I do agree that He will come back but the Church or rather Churches will not be a source of happiness for Him.
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