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Old 06-02-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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diversion and avoidance. your personal onion is not evidence. your personal opinion is no more valid than jimmie's. I get it though, you stay within a strick defined set of limits. "but they are meanies and have to be stopped."

I don't care phet, I only do how the universe works. I am truly sorry for how some people treated you, but at some point others don't have to define you.

your choice.
I will try to keep my personal onion in check.
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Old 06-02-2019, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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First of all...again? This old routine. Again?

Besides, it's not true.

For example, I say fairly often that there is nothing wrong with faith, provided that the individual knows the difference between faith and fact.

Or, I've said any number of times that there is a fair amount wisdom in the New Testament.

Or, I've said that I personally some wonderful Methodists who live their understanding of the bible. In fact, I've mentioned that I occasionally go the methodist church, and have been pleased to see that they (at least the one I go to) have pretty much dropped Old Testament readings and concentrate on New Testament readings.

I've never talked about this, but I have worked with Catholic Charities a number of times, though admittedly not lately.

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Old 06-02-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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You couldn't be more wrong about preferring the New Testament over the Old Testament. Anything good in the NT was present in much greater form in the OT prophets and wisdom literature.
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You couldn't be more wrong about preferring the New Testament over the Old Testament. Anything good in the NT was present in much greater form in the OT prophets and wisdom literature.
Well, now you've created a problem.

With the violence and hate that I see in the Old Testament...based on what you just said, I cannot respect the New Testament.

Thank you for helping me justify my disdain now for the entire bible.

You're doing a great job. Keep up the good work.
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:37 PM
 
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Well, now you've created a problem.

With the violence and hate that I see in the Old Testament...based on what you just said, I cannot respect the New Testament.

Thank you for helping me justify my disdain now for the entire bible.

You're doing a great job. Keep up the good work.
Meanwhile...it is the most prolific and influential book in the history of this world.
THAT'S the real problem you have.
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:24 PM
 
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Meanwhile...it is the most prolific and influential book in the history of this world.
THAT'S the real problem you have.
One could argue about a lot of other influential books.

Das Kapital as one.

1984

The Art of War

Etc... here:

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertain...he-world.html/
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Meanwhile...it is the most prolific and influential book in the history of this world.
THAT'S the real problem you have.
That doesn't make it true.
That doesn't make what's in it right.
And it doesn't mean that I -- or anyone else -- has to accept it.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You just hate it that Religion has that kinda power...and Atheism is pathetically weak in that regard.
Au cotraire small minion. I don't hate that. What I hate is that people can be so unbelievably superstitious and wilfully ignorant as to fall for the con-trick.
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Old 06-03-2019, 07:45 AM
 
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Me too.

Whacko fundamentalist, extremist believers in religion. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu and some Buddhists even.

Fact:

More terror attacks in the USA done by Christian and right-wing whackos than Muslim whackos since 9/11.

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Old 06-03-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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Considering there was no male contributor to the blastocyst inside of Mary, where did the male "Y" chromosome come from?
The Y chromosome didn't come from anywhere - because it never existed. Because the "virgin birth" never happened.

The fact that you even have to ask this question only shows that the author of the Bible had no clue about how genetics works. In their simple world of superstition and scientific ignorance, the author thought that a virgin birth would be just like any other birth despite having no genetic contribution from the father.

Yet there is no doubt in my mind that apologists and "true believers" will do all kinds of mental gymnastics and amazing feats of verbal contortion in order to explain how it happened - even if they have to resort to the old stand-by of: "Well, it was magic!"
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