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Old 05-25-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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Having problems with difficult questions?
No, just irrelevant carnal ones that have no impact on our spiritual development, maturation, or fate.
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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No, just irrelevant carnal ones that have no impact on our spiritual development, maturation, or fate.
Not irrelevant if the premise is that Jesus was a man.
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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He's a man because God calls himself male and he chose to be born a male.
He's a male and God is a male because at the time the books were written by men, women had no rights. They were property, chattel - no different than a house or a goat. To say God, or Jesus, could be anything but a male would never have cut it in society at that time (it doesn't cut it now to most fundies).

If you read the Bible God doesn't refer to "self" as male; God identifies as one without gender.

"Male and Female, in the image of God, I created them". Clearly if God was male, then this verse is a lie... then again I don't believe the whole bible in inerrant thing as it was humans who wrote the stories and humans who put the bible together; imperfect humans just like you and I.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:34 PM
 
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Not irrelevant if the premise is that Jesus was a man.
What is hard to understand about - there is no male, female, Jew, Gentile, etc.?
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:46 PM
 
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What is hard to understand about - there is no male, female, Jew, Gentile, etc.?
Apparently you have a unique few on the premise of the myth.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Hypothetical question?
It was more of a logical question.
No, we have evidence chance can create, especially in a old, large universe. But to imply an improbable intelligence is required without asking what process is required for that improbable intelligence is special pleading.

Which means it was not logical.

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Your’s was more of a knee jerk reaction.
No, it was pointing out your special pleading. Perhaps if you had thought about what I wrote instead of your knee jerk response.

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Logically speaking, a process does not “come†from anywhere. It gets puts in place after intelligent planning and design are supported by resources.
So you keep asserting.
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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You must be such a happy person to sit around thinking of stuff like this.
Aw, C'mon. It's kind of a fascinating question, when you stop and think about it...
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:14 PM
 
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or, did jesus have a belly button?
Of course he did. He grew in Mary's womb, so he had an umbilical cord.
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Old 05-27-2019, 06:37 AM
 
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Considering there was no male contributor to the blastocyst inside of Mary, where did the male "Y" chromosome come from?

Or was Jesus just a transgendered person who identified as a male?

To say that Jesus was conceived and became a genuine human with only one set of 23 chromosomes, from Mary, without the other 23 chromosomes contributed by a father is a ridiculous notion.

God the father is not of human form, nor is the Holy Spirit. So, where did the Y chromosome come from? Apparently there was no copulation involved (Mary was a virgin), the contributor has no form, so where did it come from?

Simple fact is, Jesus should have been a woman. The only way he could be a man is if he identifies as such.

I mean, this would be rather easy to test. All we need to do is test the sacramental wine Catholics use. Transubstantiation turns it into blood, so it would be a simple test, right?

One can only come to the conclusion that: "Ergo, the Bible is A-OK with trans people."
The "Virgin Birth" story is metaphorical and allegorical...not an actual account of an occurrence. As are most stories in ancient theological texts. But, then...you knew that.
So, your question has no merit...well, except as your attempt to insult and mock those that do believe the story.
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Old 05-27-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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Why is so much time and effort spent in discussing carnal issues instead of spiritual ones in the R&S forum? Answer that and you will begin to know why being carnal-minded is such a stumbling block to understanding the spiritual things in the Jesus narrative and the Gospel message.
Why is so much time spent? To bash, mock, and insult Christian Believers, that's why.
They are obsessed with doing so.
They think that somehow raises their Atheist stock value...but it doesn't, it lowers it.
The funniest part of it: If one is to critique the Book literally, the answer to all the, "How did THAT happen?", questions is included!
Answer to it all, from a "literal" standpoint: An Omnimax God Entity whos, "thoughts are not your thoughts, and ways are not your ways", that is capable of absolutely anything.
I guess when they are doing a literal critique of the "impossible occurrences", they forget that part of the Book. HaHaHa!
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