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God is love (1 John 4:8). Would you agree? Is love, by its nature, indiscriminate? or, rather, discriminating? Does a man love his wife the same way he loves all women? Does he love his children the same way he loves all children?
In no way can Love (Agape) be used to justify your view of discrimination let alone the kind of negative treatment of others employed by Christians toward whoever they consider sinners.
God is love (1 John 4:8). Would you agree? Is love, by its nature, indiscriminate? or, rather, discriminating? Does a man love his wife the same way he loves all women? Does he love his children the same way he loves all children?
snj, UNICEF estimates that about 29,000 children under the age of five – 21 each minute – die every day, mainly from preventable causes. Nearly 11 million child deaths every year are from diarrhea, malaria, neonatal infection, pneumonia, preterm delivery, or lack of oxygen at birth. Millions more children are trapped in abusive environments where the adults do the most unspeakable evils to these helpless children. They cry out to God every night to save them and God does NOTHING. Millions more children are suffering from horrible diseases ranging from ALS through cancer to Zika--that's literally "A to Z". Still billions more children are living in in dire extreme poverty and going to bed hungry. Now please save this idiotic "We live in a fallen world because of Adam's sin"--save that crap for the fools that buy into that nonsense. You're talking to adults in here. Please explain how a God of love could possibly allow such horrors not just to exist but thrive. Sounds more like God hates people rather than He loves them.
the point for me trill is that some christian are just butchering the system we are in.
I think their god is the system of life around us. But we are actually part of that system. That living system has the properties of life,
but its "something" not nothing. the data is just too much to deny at this point. there is no biblegod, but deny everything because of how we feel religious people mistreat people isn't enough for me to lie to people.
Snj is oddly silent for one so vocal for God. Maybe my last question stumped him.
You already said it: the original sin of Adam is the cause of suffering in the world. Redemption through Christ is something that no one deserves. God would have been perfectly just to condemn all of humanity. Instead, God saves some, and the reason He does so is love.
You already said it: the original sin of Adam is the cause of suffering in the world. Redemption through Christ is something that no one deserves. God would have been perfectly just to condemn all of humanity. Instead, God saves some, and the reason He does so is love.
snj, you obviously haven't heard a word I've said. So my conversation with you has ended.
You already said it: the original sin of Adam is the cause of suffering in the world. Redemption through Christ is something that no one deserves. God would have been perfectly just to condemn all of humanity. Instead, God saves some, and the reason He does so is love.
the original sin is ignorance snj. jesus taught a new way.
you offer apples. "here read this book ... err ... I mean eat this apple and know god.
all we are saying is that apples are great after a meal to clean our teeth.
You already said it: the original sin of Adam is the cause of suffering in the world. Redemption through Christ is something that no one deserves. God would have been perfectly just to condemn all of humanity. Instead, God saves some, and the reason He does so is love.
It's a STORY!
Most people who can tie their own shoes and cross streets by themselves, know this.
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Sounds more like God hates people rather than He loves them.
