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Old 07-21-2019, 09:33 AM
 
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We all ARE spiritual because we are Spirit beings. We only think we are physical beings because of our conditioning in our physical body.
Do you think that any bears, big cats, sharks or mosquitoes that bite us or kill and eat us only think we are physical but we are actually spuritual? Are they just filling their spiritual needs by consuming us?

Your claim that we are spiritual and only think we are physical is just that, only a claim with no evidence. No more valid than OzzyRules claim that we do not believe in any gods simply because we cannot understand his Bible. Or his inference that fundamentalist Christian is either the only way or at least the easiest way to get the Holy Spirit.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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Do you think that any bears, big cats, sharks or mosquitoes that bite us or kill and eat us only think we are physical but we are actually spiritual? Are they just filling their spiritual needs by consuming us?
We inhabit physical bodies that are the production facility for our embryo Spirit but our Spirit does not even reside in our body. It resides in the unified field that establishes our Reality. Our physical body can be consumed but we are not.
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Your claim that we are spiritual and only think we are physical is just that, only a claim with no evidence. No more valid than OzzyRules claim that we do not believe in any gods simply because we cannot understand his Bible. Or his inference that fundamentalist Christian is either the only way or at least the easiest way to get the Holy Spirit.
I am not really privy to Ozzyrules' views so I can only assume we both believe in God but have nothing else in common, especially if he is fundamentalist.

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Old 07-21-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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We inhabit physical bodies that are the production facility for our embryo Spirit but our Spirit does not even reside in our body. It resides in the unified field that establishes our Reality. Our physical body can be consumed but we are not. I am not really privy to Ozzyrules' views so I can only assume we both believe in God but have nothing else in common, especially if he is fundamentalist.
The two of you are more alike than different. Unified field that establishes our reality, sounds like lifting words from physics to sound scientific. My reality is not about a God, thete may be one but both you and OzzyRules have only shown that one must believe in order to believe. That I can believe.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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We inhabit physical bodies that are the production facility for our embryo Spirit but our Spirit does not even reside in our body. It resides in the unified field that establishes our Reality. Our physical body can be consumed but we are not.
All asserted without a shred of evidence, and contrary to everything we do know.
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Old 07-21-2019, 12:10 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Lucky he's posting in R/S, as he's proselytising his own faith -based Beliefs, and no mistake.
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Old 07-21-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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We all ARE spiritual because we are Spirit beings. We only think we are physical beings because of our conditioning in our physical body.
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I agree that we are spiritual beings but only as far as I believe being spiritual has no bearing on either the existence of any gods or if we belief in a God or not.

When I drop a heavy object on my bare foot, the pain reminds me that I am a physical being and the bruises and pain remind me for a while longer yet. I don't believe that we are not physical beings. If we were not, the airliners would pack us in much tighter that they already do.

So I might be a physical being with some spirituality but I do not agree that we are not physically beings. Same as dogs or cats. Or trees.
Yes we are spiritual beings in that we have life, consciousness imagination and emotions. We are also physical beings. Without the physical we cannot have the spiritual - we are anchored in our physical bodies. Our spiritual aspect is created (some might argue that point) and supported by our physical body.
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Old 07-21-2019, 12:24 PM
 
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Yes we are spiritual beings in that we have life, consciousness imagination and emotions. We are also physical beings. Without the physical we cannot have the spiritual - we are anchored in our physical bodies. Our spiritual aspect is created (some might argue that point) and supported by our physical body.
Totally agree.
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Old 07-21-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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All asserted without a shred of evidence, and contrary to everything we do know.
Nonsense. Science does NOT know where our consciousness resides because it is NOT "matter," it is an energy manifestation of the substrate which cannot be contained within "matter."
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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Nonsense. Science does NOT know where our consciousness resides because it is NOT "matter," it is an energy manifestation of the substrate which cannot be contained within "matter."
There is an article titled Harvard scientists think they can pinpoint the physical source of consciousness.

Have you any published papers that support your claim that consciousness is part of our spiritual reality or whatever your claim was? I mean you stated it was nonsense for someone to state that your claim was up without evidence. It therefore stands to reason that you must have evidence to back your claim. Even without this research ,hoe can you claim your proclamation is true because science has yet to prove otherwise. If consciousness does reside in the brainstem and two specific areas of the cortex would that disprove your assertion?
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Old 07-21-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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There is an article titled Harvard scientists think they can pinpoint the physical source of consciousness.
Have you any published papers that support your claim that consciousness is part of our spiritual reality or whatever your claim was? I mean you stated it was nonsense for someone to state that your claim was up without evidence. It, therefore, stands to reason that you must have evidence to back your claim. Even without this research, hoe can you claim your proclamation is true because science has yet to prove otherwise. If consciousness does reside in the brainstem and two specific areas of the cortex would that disprove your assertion?
We know the source of consciousness currently to be the entire brain based on the kind of content that comprises it. The locus of the "resonant neural composite" we identify as our awareness and sense of Self is what we cannot find in the physical brain. The "nonsense" in my post applies to fishbrain's claim it is "contrary to everything we do know" because it isn't.
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