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Old 10-01-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Except that it doesn't compare. It's a collection of ramblings of a thug mad man who claimed god spoke to him. Doesn't compare to 66 different books, with different authors over a long period of time.
No, it's actually (like the Book of Mormon) better than a lot of contradictory stories about a god who appears to be many totally different gods. You are right, there is no comparison. Except in how easily it seems to fool people into believing these whacky claims without them even really knowing what they are. I have to admit that the god of Islam strikes me as being more of a piece with the OT -god (just as nasty) than the Christian one does. Though when it came down to the viciousness and violence of contesting borders, there was nothing much to choose between them.

Yes Julian, mate, it does come down to the crudsadists in the end.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Truth is truth wherever it is found and religions at their mystical levels
(not the literal levels the many like to stay at) teach similar things.
Well, said.




(Psst...you and I could play a game ...
"How many times did you or I get TRANS or phet or both to approve of our posts?)

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Old 10-01-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Except that it doesn't compare. It's a collection of ramblings of a thug mad man who claimed god spoke to him. Doesn't compare to 66 different books, with different authors over a long period of time.
Wow, ramblings of many thug mad men who claimed god spoke to them. Much better.
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Yes. We are. And Jesus is the common theme.
Which Jesus? Paul / Hebrews; trinitarian (added later); non-trinitarian, or Gnostic (John)?
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: TEXAS
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I was listening to Lane Craig debate Bart Ehrman on YouTube...blah blah... upon what actual historical writings do you base your conclusion the empty tomb proves Jesus rose? Ditto for your claim Joseph of Arimathea buried Jesus in a tomb. Ditto for your assertion the apostles were willing to die for their faith. Since we have not a single mention anywhere of any of the apostles outside the New Testament, and in fact the Bible itself mentions nothing of the apostles' fate, upon what sources do you assert all the apostles died for their belief in Jesus? ......
Haven't had time to read the previous 12 pages, but I'll reply to OP:

The uninterrupted tradition handed down since then, the Didache , Justin Martyr (1st apology & more) and all the other dozens of early church fathers that wrote - (CHURCH FATHERS: Home) and the ongoing witness of countless saints since then ....
It's overwhelming, actually...
HE speaks, and is very much alive, today, in the members of HIS risen body HIS church!

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Old 10-01-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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Wow, ramblings of many thug mad men who claimed god spoke to them. Much better.
How many armies did Luke lead into battle?
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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Which Jesus?
The Biblical Jesus. The one that is God the Son. That's what was taught throughout the Bible.
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Germany
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How many armies did Luke lead into battle?
Now Luke wrote all the Bible. I thought it was different authors?
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Old 10-01-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Germany
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The Biblical Jesus. The one that is God the Son. That's what was taught throughout the Bible.
As I said, which one is it?

The divine, the multiple personality, the son of God or the son of a different god to that of the Jews?
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Old 10-01-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Not just him. The believers truly think that the miracles of the religion they believe are more significant than equally good miracles in other religions that they don't believe.

I always think it's amusing to hear the Christians saying that Christianity is better than Islam because it has an illegitimate son of the deity who was killed and turned into a zombie. They do not get it when I say that's precisely the reason Islam says Christianity has to be wrong.
I’m a Christian not because of miracles-I wasn’t there. I’m a Christian because I see it played out every day.

Man is flawed
God reached down in love
Man seeks redemption
God changes man
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