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Don't forget Enoch...and where is Mary, where'd she go? You're an atheist, right?
"He was there in the beginning..." LOL---Where is 'there'? Hahahahaha-Good one.
The observable universe is upwards of 100 billion light years in diameter. At the speed of light Enoch and Mary and Jesus are still flying through space and will be for billions of years yet.
Of course according to Muhammad he flew up to heaven, met with God, and returned to Earth all in one night. There is this ongoing conflict between observable physical reality and ancient make believe, you see.
To a spiritual believer, the question has no meaning. God is not anywhere.
It's like asking what part of your body contains your soul. Someone who asks the question cannot understand the answer.
For me, I think the origin of the confusion lies in the way most people speak of God.
We speak of "the will of God; the hand of God; the word of God, and then we go "reside in heaven".
It's all wrong, I think.
Added: I forgot this quote - you'll like it.
"You can be as close to God as you wanna be...it depends
on how much time you're willing to put into it." - a preacher
(I found that to be true.)
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Just to keep on topic where do you think God is?
We know about Jer and A.
I can only agree with Jeremiah and Aquinas. Aquinas has really covered every argument and counter-argument I have seen in religious debate, I have nothing much to add to what he has covered. I do learn more every time I go to see what he has to say on a topic.
But to add something more, I will say that the question “Where is God?” can be answered from two different points of view.
One is from a more pure intellectual or philosophical point of view, covering what the idea of “omnipresence” means, and how omnipresence in God relates to the other attributes of God. This is what Aquinas covers.
The other point of view for answering the question “Where is God?”, is really about where do I find a relationship with God?
I can only agree with Jeremiah and Aquinas. Aquinas has really covered every argument and counter-argument I have seen in religious debate, I have nothing much to add to what he has covered. I do learn more every time I go to see what he has to say on a topic.
But to add something more, I will say that the question “Where is God?” can be answered from two different points of view.
One is from a more pure intellectual or philosophical point of view, covering what the idea of “omnipresence” means, and how omnipresence in God relates to the other attributes of God. This is what Aquinas covers.
The other point of view for answering the question “Where is God?”, is really about where do I find a relationship with God?
This is what the more poetic answers speak to.
The first is about a god that requires something more than faith -claims to be a viable proposition. The second is arguing that faith -claims are enough. They are (logically) not. If someone who believes on faith accepts that, it's ok. Provided that they don't then try to pretend that science and logic supports it. Which is what 85 % of religious apologetics is trying to do. Usually by fiddling science and logic to look like they support the faith -claims.
The Old Favourite of 'Who made everything, then?' sums it up. The right, logical and honest answer is 'Nobody knows'. But the answer presented is 'If you can't prove it was something else, God must be the answer'. This is illogical on several levels.
The observable universe is upwards of 100 billion light years in diameter. At the speed of light Enoch and Mary and Jesus are still flying through space and will be for billions of years yet.
Of course according to Muhammad he flew up to heaven, met with God, and returned to Earth all in one night. There is this ongoing conflict between observable physical reality and ancient make believe, you see.
Not even ancient...happens all the time. Just ask ocean777.
Great question! I'm coming around to believing that God is the pure luminous awareness--I am-ness-- in whom we live and move and have our being. Inside us, outside us, the boundary dissolves. There is nowhere where God isn't. I'm listening to a book now by Sally Kempton called Doorways to the Infinite that has meditations on this very topic.
Great question! I'm coming around to believing that God is the pure luminous awareness--I am-ness-- in whom we live and move and have our being. Inside us, outside us, the boundary dissolves. There is nowhere where God isn't. I'm listening to a book now by Sally Kempton called Doorways to the Infinite that has meditations on this very topic.
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LOL---Where is 'there'? Hahahahaha-Good one.
