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Old 01-23-2020, 06:34 AM
 
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The deity described in the Bible is malevolent and psychotic.

And poorly-written; that's what writing-by-committee and a lack of any coherent editing at all gets you.
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:25 AM
 
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So it sounds to me that God is neither all good nor all powerful.
Of course he is. There will be a day when he comes to rescue his creation. Until then, he's being patient to allow his people to come to him.
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Old 01-23-2020, 08:07 AM
 
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Of course he is. There will be a day when he comes to rescue his creation. Until then, he's being patient to allow his people to come to him.
So is this conformation That there is nobody in heaven to date BFun?

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


EVERYONE dead has rotted in the grave waiting for jesus?
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Old 01-23-2020, 08:47 AM
 
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So is this conformation That there is nobody in heaven to date BFun?

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


EVERYONE dead has rotted in the grave waiting for jesus?
The bodies are still in the graves. There are certainly souls in heaven. When Jesus returns, souls will be reunited with bodies and they will rise.
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Old 01-23-2020, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The bodies are still in the graves. There are certainly souls in heaven. When Jesus returns, souls will be reunited with bodies and they will rise.
No wonder the zombie theme is so popular these days. Probably only a matter of time before we are graced with a new TV series: Heavenly Zombies.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The bodies are still in the graves. There are certainly souls in heaven. When Jesus returns, souls will be reunited with bodies and they will rise.
I hate to think what those bodies are going to look like after any length of time.Yuk!
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I hate to think what those bodies are going to look like after any length of time.Yuk!
Can you imagine the work that's going to be required of their god-thing? I mean, it's one thing to grab some dirt and make a man but it's got to be quite another to reassemble billions of decayed, worm-riddled corpses and buff them to a bright, new shine with that New Person smell.

If I was a god-thing I'd druther spend my time fishing or shooting pool or playing with a puppy.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:29 AM
 
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So is this conformation That there is nobody in heaven to date BFun?

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:


EVERYONE dead has rotted in the grave waiting for jesus?
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The bodies are still in the graves. There are certainly souls in heaven. When Jesus returns, souls will be reunited with bodies and they will rise.
BFun that’s not what the scriptures say unless you can provide the souls in heaven souls verse?


Why are bodies needed in heaven BFun?
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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A lot of these posts seem to be for the other thread on people being raised from graves.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:47 AM
 
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Of course he is. There will be a day when he comes to rescue his creation. Until then, he's being patient to allow his people to come to him.
Yet, he does nothing to intervene at all in what happens on Earth. If he never intervenes what's the point in prayer?

The bible is always saying the same thing. That it is possible to worship God even without explanations, even when we don’t know all the reasons. Just have faith. Unfortunately the problem with faith is if it is ever right about anything, is right by accident.

It is impossible for all of these statements to be true:

(1) God is omnipotent (that is, all-powerful).

(2) God is omniscient (that is, all-knowing).

(3) God is perfectly good.

(4) Evil exists.

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