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Old 01-29-2020, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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If Christianity was started by men, then how was it inevitable? What about it was inevitable?
Personally, I think that's a great ques for the psychology section.
''What in Man's nature drives him to want a higher power and to meet with others to
perform rituals and place rules on themselves like any other 'Club' or exclusive group;
Allowing others to tell them what to think? Fear? Promise of Heaven? Or the Potlucks once a month?"
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This is true to an extent. The "definition" existed previously, the Nicene Council made the "definition" official.
Oh, I wasn't aware of that. What I read was there were all sorts of groups or different
factions thinking all sorts of wacky, different things thinking they were following Christ, and causing problems. Bar fights can be hell for a Ruler.
If there was a definition I wouldn't know who made it - not thinking there was much organization that early...or was there?
Any more info on that? I wanna be accurate, not saying stupid things that aren't true!
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Old 01-29-2020, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Ok, you opened the door, BF, nothing personal, -
would you list how he has spoken about anything anti-God, please.
I don't have a pony in this race either way, I don't even read what he says since he placed me on ignore...
just ya gotta give examples. Thanks.
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For starters, him telling Christians that we're anti-God? That's a big one.
But he's always posting strange nonsensical stories that contradict the Bible.

To be honest, I'm glad that he is saying that Christianity is wrong, because as a Christian, I'm not sure I like him
being lumped into the same group as me.
I see your gripe.
Ok. (If you say so cuz I only glimpse a little in the quote boxes.)

But, it clearly sounds that he is anti-Christianity, perhaps anti-Bible stories....not anti-God, right?
In fact, he seems to encourage, as I do, to personally know God.
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Old 01-29-2020, 04:32 PM
 
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I see your gripe.
Ok. (If you say so cuz I only glimpse a little in the quote boxes.)

But, it clearly sounds that he is anti-Christianity, perhaps anti-Bible stories....not anti-God, right?
In fact, he seems to encourage, as I do, to personally know God.
To be anti-Christianity is anti-God.
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Old 01-29-2020, 05:22 PM
 
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To be anti-Christianity is anti-God.
No, it's not necessarily that at all. Muslims and Jews may not be "anti" Christianity, but they are not "for" Christianity either. Yet, they are definitely Pro-God.
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Old 01-29-2020, 05:46 PM
 
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No, it's not necessarily that at all. Muslims and Jews may not be "anti" Christianity, but they are not "for" Christianity either. Yet, they are definitely Pro-God.
Don't you ever grow tired of that?
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Old 01-29-2020, 06:34 PM
 
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well, its like having leg braces.

it most certainly can be a great help. Maybe even needed for life.

it most certainly can be holding one back.
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Old 01-29-2020, 09:47 PM
 
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To be anti-Christianity is anti-God.
Oh my.
Would you say to a Jewish person's face, let's take Rachel from NY, at a discussion table,
for instance or even to a Rabbi...
that because he/she was anti-Christianity he was anti-God?
Then, would you turn to a Muslim and say the same to him?

Maybe we should define our words....what is it to be anti-Christianity.
Probably *putting the beliefs of Christianity down? Or just *disagreeing with the beliefs?
Or is anti-Christianity *just a person not being Christian --anti-God, then, in your thinking?
If you *don't believe in all of Christianity's beliefs are you then anti-God, in your mind?

Full disclosure: I'm asking with an ulterior motive, , I just want to see exactly
what goes on in your head or heart.
And, also do any others here reading this also believe this?
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Old 01-29-2020, 10:07 PM
 
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To be anti-Christianity is anti-God.
This unequivocally brands you as a Christian bigot not pro-God. You are claiming only Christians are pro-God.
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Old 01-30-2020, 04:11 AM
 
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Oh my.
Would you say to a Jewish person's face, let's take Rachel from NY, at a discussion table,
for instance or even to a Rabbi...
that because he/she was anti-Christianity he was anti-God?
Then, would you turn to a Muslim and say the same to him?

Maybe we should define our words....what is it to be anti-Christianity.
Probably *putting the beliefs of Christianity down? Or just *disagreeing with the beliefs?
Or is anti-Christianity *just a person not being Christian --anti-God, then, in your thinking?
If you *don't believe in all of Christianity's beliefs are you then anti-God, in your mind?

Full disclosure: I'm asking with an ulterior motive, , I just want to see exactly
what goes on in your head or heart.
And, also do any others here reading this also believe this?
I would like to read a response to this as well. Good post. It is possible for a Christian to believe in all of Christianity as in they believed it happened, not necessarily that they want it repeated or that they would attempt to live exactly as Jesus did.
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Old 01-30-2020, 05:35 AM
 
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To be anti-Christianity is anti-God.
Wait-- What?

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Oh my.
Would you say to a Jewish person's face, let's take Rachel from NY, at a discussion table,
Here I be!

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Maybe we should define our words....what is it to be anti-Christianity.
Probably *putting the beliefs of Christianity down? Or just *disagreeing with the beliefs?
Or is anti-Christianity *just a person not being Christian --anti-God, then, in your thinking?
If you *don't believe in all of Christianity's beliefs are you then anti-God, in your mind?
Good questions, Sis.

I guess some people might call me "anti-Christianity" because, throughout history, there have been a number of things that have come out of Christianity that haven't been especially kind to the Jewish people and, as a result, I don't always take a kind view towards Christianity.

On the other hand, I have many Christian friends whom I dearly love. So I figure that there's got to be some good in Christianity, to have given me such friends who have my back and who have stood up for me -- especially against stuff such as this: Back in the '80s, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention (Bailey Smith) publicly stated that "God does not hear the prayers of a Jew."

The statement: "To be anti-Christianity is anti-God," kind of brings Bailey Smith to mind again.
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