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Old 07-22-2020, 11:52 AM
 
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I know it's the religion forum, but when a person presents wrong information, even when that wrong information is itself off topic, we are allowed to respond and refute that misinformation which I did concerning a comment made at the beginning of post #52. Since I was addressing that poster, and not you, it doesn't matter whether you understand my point or not. You are the one dragging it out by making an issue of it. And I suggested that you do some research concerning the matter of space being able to expand at faster than light speed as you might find it interesting. So I'm not sure why you're getting an attitude.

Also, you didn't know that space can expand faster than light because you suggested that I was making an ''effort to make us doubt everything we thought we knew, so at to make it easier to feed us some unverified Claim.'' [Post 591]
If on the one hand you can correct someone who was not addressing you, I would suggest it's plenty okay that someone address you even if you were not directly addressing them either. Fair game, in any case, to ask for clarification about something someone may not understand or agree upon. My opinion anyway.

No doubt it is interesting the universe can expand faster than the limit of light speed, but then again the universe is pretty fascinating as a whole generally speaking. Certainly to me it is. Also fascinating is how people can consider all that source of fascination only in the context of Intelligent Design. Somehow proving Intelligent Design. No doubt we humans sure have many different ways of looking at things and/or different manner of making sense of it all...
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Old 07-22-2020, 12:14 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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You call it jargon because you do not know enough to understand what it refers to yet you feel qualified to declare it without substance. Talk about unjustified arrogance. You never change either, Arq.
No. What I say is that you should make a case, not just a claim with some sciencey jargon thrown on top to make it look good.

And frankly, your 'science' has proved to be so flawed before (despite tour denials) that we can hardly be blamed for doubting your claims, whether or not they seem on the face of it to be rather odd. Therefore you accusations of not understanding when I (or others) have proved to understand the science and even your own theory better than you do and you only response has been to deny everything when everyone knows better.

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Originally Posted by Michael Way View Post
I know it's the religion forum, but when a person presents wrong information, even when that wrong information is itself off topic, we are allowed to respond and refute that misinformation which I did concerning a comment made at the beginning of post #52. Since I was addressing that poster, and not you, it doesn't matter whether you understand my point or not. You are the one dragging it out by making an issue of it. And I suggested that you do some research concerning the matter of space being able to expand at faster than light speed as you might find it interesting. So I'm not sure why you're getting an attitude.

Also, you didn't know that space can expand faster than light because you suggested that I was making an ''effort to make us doubt everything we thought we knew, so at to make it easier to feed us some unverified Claim.'' [Post 591]
Obviously I did know that because I said it - twice. And I was asking for the relevance to topic. However I would concede that I don't know the development of the argument, which was presumably on topic, so Ok, I'll leave it there.

I looked back to #175 and 176 and you were indeed correcting some misunderstandings about relativity and the Light year. So ok, I went off half cocked.

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Old 07-22-2020, 12:20 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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If on the one hand you can correct someone who was not addressing you, I would suggest it's plenty okay that someone address you even if you were not directly addressing them either. Fair game, in any case, to ask for clarification about something someone may not understand or agree upon. My opinion anyway.
I never said that it wasn't. But Transponder was complaining that this is the religion forum and not the science forum. So I explained that it is okay to correct an errant statement made by someone on an off topic subject.

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No doubt it is interesting the universe can expand faster than the limit of light speed, but then again the universe is pretty fascinating as a whole generally speaking. Certainly to me it is..
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Also fascinating is how people can consider all that source of fascination only in the context of Intelligent Design. Somehow proving Intelligent Design. No doubt we humans sure have many different ways of looking at things and/or different manner of making sense of it all...
Different people have different world views and different models with which to explain or support their worldview.
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Old 07-22-2020, 01:04 PM
 
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I never said that it wasn't. But Transponder was complaining that this is the religion forum and not the science forum. So I explained that it is okay to correct an errant statement made by someone on an off topic subject.

Yes.

Different people have different world views and different models with which to explain or support their worldview.
If I have a complaint, it would be the focus entirely on the science regardless the topic of this thread or the fact this is a religious forum, but I don't really have a complaint about what people choose to focus upon for whatever their reasons. Your last comment reminds me of what my daughter was famous for explaining at a very young age. "People are different."

Now back to something we don't all know...
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