field of consciousness that connects everything

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

How would it learn from mere data without the product of YOUR consciousness resident in the program????

Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes

1, there is the goal post moving.

There is the inexplicable lack of comprehension for such an otherwise intelligent person. No goal post was moved. I am trying to get you to see that YOU instantiate YOUR conscious processing into the algorithmic manipulations you program into the machine. The machine has no way to generate those processes on its own because it has NO consciousness and it will not have any consciousness despite using YOUR instantiated processing. It simply mimics outcomes.

2, I build the program that represents neurons in the brain. but no one builds the actual neurons in the brain.

No one said this least of all me. You make very strange inferences. Of course, you supply the simulated conscious processing using YOUR consciousness otherwise it cannot exist within the non-conscious machine.

DO try and keep up with the actual arguments.

The one having difficulty understanding the ACTUAL arguments seems to be YOU.

[Arach Angle]

Originally Posted by TRANSPONDER

I sympathise. But regrettably the atheist side are seen as being Personal when they are pointing out invalid and illogical reasoning, and the theist side resorts to personals when they run out of arguments, which is usually very quickly. I learned from our ld Theist Pal Eusebius that when the Believers lose the argument, trashtalk at least enable them to score equal points.

The victim card again. And whats even funnier is that you do the exact same thing. But when you do it you just blame the other person.

[Harry Diogenes]

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

There is the inexplicable lack of comprehension for such an otherwise intelligent person. No goal post was moved.

When I corrected you on the role of the data, you changed to pretend you was talking about the program. Guess what? I know my consciousness was responsible for creating the program. Thank you for THAT lecture.

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

The machine has no way to generate those processes on its own because it has NO consciousness and it will not have any consciousness despite using YOUR instantiated processing. It simply mimics outcomes.

No, it is generating it's own outcomes based on what it learnt from the data. That is why it is called machine learning. Just like we can learn new things.

Originally Posted by MysticPhD

No one said this least of all me. You make very strange inferences.

You were implying a consciousness was required to create the conscious / pseudo conscious output, coy boy.