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A different world view usually takes along time of debating and discussion until one side wins, that's how culture and worldviews change. But the Christian worldview of resurrection sprang up full-blown immediately after the death of Jesus. Their was no process or development. His followers said their beliefs did not come from debating, but they were telling others what they had seen themselves. It would have been hard to get Jews to form a movement unless their were multiple, plausible, repeated encounters with Jesus after his death. It was blasphemy for Jews to begin worshipping any human being. But hundreds of Jews begin to worship Jesus pretty much overnight. What event broke through all of that Jewish resistance? No other group of Jews ever worshipped a human being as God, that was blasphemous to them. What led them to do it? What changed their worldview so fast and had them willing to die for it, be thrown in prison for it, and preach it through out the Roman-Greco cities?
You answered your own question. Jesus' disciples saw the risen Jesus. Even skeptical scholars accept that the disciples believed that they saw the risen Jesus even though those same skeptical scholars will say they don't know what the disciples actually saw because their own worldview will not allow them to believe that Jesus was actually resurrected.
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You answered your own question. Jesus' disciples saw the risen Jesus. Even skeptical scholars accept that the disciples believed that they saw the risen Jesus even though those same skeptical scholars will say they don't know what the disciples actually saw because they're own worldview will not allow them to believe that Jesus was actually resurrected.
The resurrection affirmed Christ in every way. --- He was not just seen by two disciples on the Road to Emmaus; but, was seen by as many as 500 people over the next 40-days!
There's no evidence that the original 11-12 disciples questioned the resurrection. Their entire lives were changed and it appears that all were ultimately martyred for their faith.
Christ lives today! --... in the hearts and by the Holy Spirit in born-again believers!
I'm not a mod, but the rules for this Christianity forum hold that in here 'belief' is to be a given, so your responses will probably not be what you intended.
If this is the case, you're better off in the R&S forum level (back 1 click) - - - but I sure hope you're wearing your mithrils!
A different world view usually takes along time of debating and discussion until one side wins, that's how culture and worldviews change. But the Christian worldview of resurrection sprang up full-blown immediately after the death of Jesus. Their was no process or development. His followers said their beliefs did not come from debating, but they were telling others what they had seen themselves. It would have been hard to get Jews to form a movement unless their were multiple, plausible, repeated encounters with Jesus after his death. It was blasphemy for Jews to begin worshipping any human being. But hundreds of Jews begin to worship Jesus pretty much overnight. What event broke through all of that Jewish resistance? No other group of Jews ever worshipped a human being as God, that was blasphemous to them. What led them to do it? What changed their worldview so fast and had them willing to die for it, be thrown in prison for it, and preach it through out the Roman-Greco cities?
1. it explains what OSHO called the "presence of Master". While Master is present, his aura is oozing onto his disciples, like a magnetic mesmerizing force, that keeps them in their faith. the very moment Master is gone...
2. it explains, how weak, in reality, was their faith
3. to one of your points, OP... I do not recall exact expressions but it goes something like this: Never underestimate, what a dedicated group of people can accomplish, if they were bent on achieving their goal. If certain Jews decided to stick to a new faith and, particularly, if it could benefit them in the future, much of new religion creation could have been accomplished. Until Roman power stepped in and made it official. As a rabbi said, fake it, fake it, till you make it.
Jesus asked his disciples .. ``Whom do men say that I the Son of man ? And Simon Peter said ``You are the Christ, the Son of the living God `` .... And Jesus said to Him ``Blessing are you Simon Barjona, For flesh and blood has not revealed it on to you, but my Father which is in heaven`` Matthew 16:13-20 , Mark 8;27-30 ...... See here it is Jesus which was incorporating their belief through a quickening from God that Jesus was God
A different world view usually takes along time of debating and discussion until one side wins, that's how culture and worldviews change. But the Christian worldview of resurrection sprang up full-blown immediately after the death of Jesus. Their was no process or development. His followers said their beliefs did not come from debating, but they were telling others what they had seen themselves. It would have been hard to get Jews to form a movement unless their were multiple, plausible, repeated encounters with Jesus after his death. It was blasphemy for Jews to begin worshipping any human being. But hundreds of Jews begin to worship Jesus pretty much overnight. What event broke through all of that Jewish resistance? No other group of Jews ever worshipped a human being as God, that was blasphemous to them. What led them to do it? What changed their worldview so fast and had them willing to die for it, be thrown in prison for it, and preach it through out the Roman-Greco cities?
What caused the disciples to change their worldview?
maybe they just wanted to eat beacon wrapped scallops in a cotton hemp blend pair of pants and shirt?
I don't think thats true but don't feel like looking it up
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