Richard Dawkins's belief scale,where do you belong? (myth, verse, exist)

[compwiz02]

#4 - I have no idea if God exists or not. There's so much we do not know about this universe so *maybe* God does exist in some shape or form. Better question: does heaven and hell exist? If so, what shape or form do they exist in?

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

What if someone believes that something called "God" exists, but doesn't see God as a "he" or even as an actual person at all?

If that's you, what do you see God as?

[TroutDude]

If we're talking about the Abrahamic god, put me down for #7.

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by Michael Way

If that's you, what do you see God as?

Words don't exist to describe it, but the best I can do is "that which connects us" (and "us" is not limited to human beings). I think humans personify it and call it God. In a patriarchal society such as the one that spawned the Abrahamic languages, God becomes a "he". Our ancient ice-age ancestors seemed to have leaned toward a "she", given what has been unearthed in archeological digs. Other cultures over time have had a mix of hes and shes, but the personification is the common thread, probably because its identifiable, and it works, since the Gods and Goddesses invariably possess very human attributes, or desired human attributes.

Giving the Person or Persons a story is what religion is.

But the core of them all, what humans are trying to identify and explain and understand, is our innate sense that "that which connects us" exists.

ETA: It's possible for people to understand this and still find a place within a specific belief system if they choose to do so.

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

Words don't exist to describe it, but the best I can do is "that which connects us" (and "us" is not limited to human beings). I think humans personify it and call it God. In a patriarchal society such as the one that spawned the Abrahamic languages, God becomes a "he". Our ancient ice-age ancestors seemed to have leaned toward a "she", given what has been unearthed in archeological digs. Other cultures over time have had a mix of hes and shes, but the personification is the common thread, probably because its identifiable, and it works, since the Gods and Goddesses invariably possess very human attributes, or desired human attributes.

Giving the Person or Persons a story is what religion is.

But the core of them all, what humans are trying to identify and explain and understand, is our innate sense that "that which connects us" exists.

ETA: It's possible for people to understand this and still find a place within a specific belief system if they choose to do so.

Would some sort of cosmic consciousness or a field of conciousness underlying reality describe what you're trying to express?

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by Michael Way

Would some sort of cosmic consciousness or a field of conciousness underlying reality describe what you're trying to express?

I don't know. You sound like Mystic, lol.

Not phrases I would use. I'd have to think about that.

Again, I don't think there are adequate human-language words to describe what is.

And that's coming from a "words-and-language" person.

[CCCyou]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

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Again, I don't think there are adequate human-language words to describe what is.
And that's coming from a "words-and-language" person.

I hear you on this - everything good all at once - can't describe and overwhelming to contemplate.

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

I don't know. You sound like Mystic, lol.

Please don't insult me. Actually those are terms used by some physicists who hold to the 'many world's' interpretation of quantum mechanics. Physicist Michio Kaku briefly explains the concept in this ten minute video.

Cosmic Consciousness With Michio Kaku


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQvRk632LHM

There's also a lot of pseudo science regarding the concept.

Not phrases I would use. I'd have to think about that.

Again, I don't think there are adequate human-language words to describe what is.

And that's coming from a "words-and-language" person.

Okay, thank you.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

What if someone believes that something called "God" exists, but doesn't see God as a "he" or even as an actual person at all?

Wouldn't a weak theist believe that something called God exists, even if he couldn't put his finger on what God was?

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Wouldn't a weak theist believe that something called God exists, even if he couldn't put his finger on what God was?

But I don't feel as though the "I am very uncertain" part of weak theist, according to the poll, applies.