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Old 08-25-2020, 06:55 AM
 
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:05 AM
 
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Let's be honest...the validity of facts on this forum means nothing to winning an argument against the anti-Christian mob that posts here. You know that, we know that, everyone knows that. It doesn't matter how sound an argument is, you and others will simply insult the poster and their intelligence. I've seen it done over and over again.
The problem with you and many Christians is that you do not realize and simply refuse to accept that all of your arguments for the supernatural claims of Jesus are simply theological assertions. Christians are simply unable to provide any evidence of supernatural claims in the bible.
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:21 AM
 
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The problem with you and many Christians is that you do not realize and simply refuse to accept that all of your arguments for the supernatural claims of Jesus are simply theological assertions. Christians are simply unable to provide any evidence of supernatural claims in the bible.
What evidence would you expect to see?
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:55 AM
 
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What evidence would you expect to see?
Give it up Bapfun. Going on the attack won't work with anyone but those who go on the attack themselves. And asking for evidence is pointless. There isn't any that stands up to 'honest' (which you and your Ilk don't do) scrutiny. So ashing 'What' by now is simply wriggling.

P.s. Is that was this was about? A sex -scandal?
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:03 AM
 
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What evidence would you expect to see?
Do we have anyone within the Roman empire stating they even heard of a physical resurrection happening? I would say that is a reasonable ask for such an extraordinary claim.
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:19 AM
 
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What evidence would you expect to see?
Comparable historical evidence (not one biased book) to other historic figures of the time, or even earlier. Hannibal, for example. Concurrent Roman political figures.
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:32 AM
 
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Do we have anyone within the Roman empire stating they even heard of a physical resurrection happening? I would say that is a reasonable ask for such an extraordinary claim.
As I recall, Lucian mentioned that Alexander of Abonoteichus (of the Glycon cult) was associated with a resurrection -claim.

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Old 08-25-2020, 09:33 AM
 
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Do we have anyone within the Roman empire stating they even heard of a physical resurrection happening? I would say that is a reasonable ask for such an extraordinary claim.
Other than the very well documented rise of Christianity based on the claims of the resurrection?

Do you suppose that perhaps there might be any reason not to report on such a thing? Maybe that Rome would not appreciate the Jews rallying around such a figure that rose from the dead?
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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Do we have anyone within the Roman empire stating they even heard of a physical resurrection happening? I would say that is a reasonable ask for such an extraordinary claim.
Not just a resurrection, there would be a major scandal if a criminal allegedly killed was later seen walking around, or a body appeared to have been stolen. There would have been a major investigation into both, with Christians being interrogated by the Romans. Yet even Christian sources are quiet about any investigation that would have occurred.
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:42 AM
 
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Not just a resurrection, there would be a major scandal if a criminal allegedly killed was later seen walking around, or a body appeared to have been stolen. There would have been a major investigation into both, with Christians being interrogated by the Romans. Yet even Christian sources are quiet about any investigation that would have occurred.
Yes. It would. And the solution is explained in the Gospels. But I get it. You don't want to believe, so you won't. And that's the point I made to Diesel. No amount of evidence would sway your mind because you're hell-bent on not believing it.

Matthew 28:15 "So they took the money and did as they were directed. And this story has been spread among the Jews to this day."
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