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I don't think so. I try very hard not to be, and I've gotten better at it with age. One indicator is that I will attempt to consider the other person's point of view. I may not ever agree with it, but I will acknowledge its existence and understand that another's experience and knowledge can lead them to see the world differently from how I see it.
I know that things are very rarely ever black and white, either/or.
yes, they can apply it to rational people. For example, I am anti militant/fundy think types. That can easily be stated as "I am closed minded" and "not a real [whatever]"
but when we list what is actually being said side by side, that's usually when things have to start being outlawed to make a case or offer group therapy.
You know, I don't even have a problem with people saying their religion or their denomination within Christianity is the correct one, as long as they precede that statement with "I believe..." or "In my opinion..." or "From my perspective." It's when they state it as if it were a fact that cannot be denied or even argued that bugs me. That's my biggest gripe with people on this forum.
I agree. Aside from what is well -validated facts, of course. Which in itself is often a cause of debate - what is Fact and what is Opinion.
There's more than one way of looking at it, but one way is that there are two kinds of prejudice. One type is when it's learned by children from their parents or other people like themselves, and based almost exclusively via word of mouth. The other type is when an individual learns through actual interaction that there are things about a particular culture that just don't set well with someone. The former is appalling; the latter at least I can understand.
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
A couple of things that a few of our christian posters don't understand:
1. Critiquing a religion is not the same thing as condemning a religion.
2. There is a difference between criticizing a religion, and criticizing the beliefs of a particular poster.
Indeed. Just as there is a difference between wanting a society where no one religion sways the society and a society where Christians are exterminated like Tasmanian tigers.
Just as they can't get the difference between not accepting the god claim and claiming to know that no god could possibly exist. In fact, trotting out prejudices time after time, and not much caring whether are true or not, so long as it bashes atheism.
Mind, BapFun does try to defend his position.
Mightyqueen801 ."..very few people just wake up one fine day and say, "Gee, I'm going to despise this religion today."
Indeed. Just as there is a difference between wanting a society where no one religion sways the society and a society where Christians are exterminated like Tasmanian tigers.
Just as they can't get the difference between not accepting the god claim and claiming to know that no god could possibly exist. In fact, trotting out prejudices time after time, and not much caring whether are true or not, so long as it bashes atheism.
Mind, BapFun does try to defend his position.
Mightyqueen801 ."..very few people just wake up one fine day and say, "Gee, I'm going to despise this religion today."
Atheists are more close minded. They ask for evidence when it reality, they never truly want evidence. They just want to feel better in their tiny bubble if they find a way to shred the evidence to pieces.
You can present concrete pieces of evidence that a supernatural event occurred and an atheist's mind would never approach it as well let's see if this really is true. The approach is well let's see how I can rationalize the event or discredit the evidence.
Atheists are more close minded. They ask for evidence when it reality, they never truly want evidence. They just want to feel better in their tiny bubble if they find a way to shred the evidence to pieces.
You can present concrete pieces of evidence that a supernatural event occurred and an atheist's mind would never approach it as well let's see if this really is true. The approach is well let's see how I can rationalize the event or discredit the evidence.
No, it is you who refuses to accept there are more probable explanations that you simply do not like.
We give supernatural explanations a low probability because when we have investigated alleged supernatural claims, they have so far have all been found to be either dubious, or something that is simply unexplainable.
You have no obvious, concrete evidence. And the religious have a long history of faking evidence. One must ask why that is.
No, it is you who refuses to accept there are more probable explanations that you simply do not like.
pot...kettle....
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We give supernatural explanations a low probability because when we have investigated alleged supernatural claims, they have so far have all been found to be either dubious, or something that is simply unexplainable.
You have no obvious, concrete evidence. And the religious have a long history of faking evidence. One must ask why that is.
Taking the fish and loaves story literally is an example.
I may use that as a Disguised version of "Taking the P**ss.."
"You're takin' the loaves and Fish, Mayree Pappins.."
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
Atheists are more close minded. They ask for evidence when it reality, they never truly want evidence. They just want to feel better in their tiny bubble if they find a way to shred the evidence to pieces.
You can present concrete pieces of evidence that a supernatural event occurred and an atheist's mind would never approach it as well let's see if this really is true. The approach is well let's see how I can rationalize the event or discredit the evidence.
Denial.
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
pot...kettle....
Right. So you're open-minded?
Trashtalk.
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I'm in a tiny minority, yet again.
