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What about the entire lack of connection with all the people all over the world who lived and died without ever even hearing about Jesus' existence?
It has nothing to do with hearing about Jesus. It s a structural fact of our Reality that operates from within our consciousness wther or not we know about it. That is why it is so easily ignored. Making people aware of the Comofrter sent in Christ's name to guide us to the TRuth God has "Written in our hearts does help, but not as much as it should.
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To consider what facts establish what credit for success or failure God should be given, we need the facts that establish God's existence first. I can't go much further from that starting point anymore than I can consider the success or failure of little green men from Mars.
And there it is - the atheist existence dogma - that you would pretend should be instantiated as the default and is why you reject and would banish my Christian panentheism religion.
It has nothing to do with hearing about Jesus. It s a structural fact of our Reality that operates from within our consciousness wther or not we know about it. That is why it is so easily ignored. Making people aware of the Comofrter sent in Christ's name to guide us to the TRuth God has "Written in our hearts does help, but not as much as it should. And there it is - the atheist existence dogma - that you would pretend should be instantiated as the default and is why you reject and would banish my Christian panentheism religion.
Your lack of credible evidence and rational argument is our atheist dogma?
Your lack of credible evidence and rational argument is our atheist dogma?
No, your inability to comprehend the symmetry of our ignorance about WHAT our Reality IS or IS NOT because you are too impressed with your mental capacities and your preferred beliefs to accept that WE DO NOT KNOW EITHER WAY!
It has nothing to do with hearing about Jesus. It s a structural fact of our Reality that operates from within our consciousness wther or not we know about it. That is why it is so easily ignored. Making people aware of the Comofrter sent in Christ's name to guide us to the TRuth God has "Written in our hearts does help, but not as much as it should. And there it is - the atheist existence dogma - that you would pretend should be instantiated as the default and is why you reject and would banish my Christian panentheism religion.
But didn't you just post... "Because Jesus connected the entire collective human consciousness to God consciousness with His human consciousness, period."
How is any of that supposed to happen if no one hears about Jesus? If nothing to do with hearing about Jesus, then why bother mentioning Him? I'm thinking the Buddha might at least be worth honorable mention, but I have to admit I'm having trouble reading what is written in my heart...
No, your inability to comprehend the symmetry of our ignorance about WHAT our Reality IS or IS NOT because you are too impressed with your mental capacities and your preferred beliefs to accept that WE DO NOT KNOW EITHER WAY!
Let's be fair and honest Mystic...
Sure seems to me you are quite impressed with your ability to "connect" with whatever you feel connected with no different from how someone else might be impressed with their "mental capacities." You don't come off as humble in any of these respects either way, and that's fine. You believe what you do, strongly, just like pretty much everyone else who bothers with this forum. None of that really matters as compared to the WHY we believe what we do. Nothing wrong with accepting what we do not know far as I'm concerned either. I tend to feel we're a little short along those lines and a little long on making up the unknown, but about that too we all tend to take our different paths based on whatever makes the most sense to us all considered.
My path is away from this forum for the rest of the day. Perhaps until tomorrow. Cheers.
But didn't you just post... "Because Jesus connected the entire collective human consciousness to God consciousness with His human consciousness, period."
How is any of that supposed to happen if no one hears about Jesus? If nothing to do with hearing about Jesus, then why bother mentioning Him? I'm thinking the Buddha might at least be worth honorable mention, but I have to admit I'm having trouble reading what is written in my heart...
In other words, it is NOT a factor that depends on our intellectual knowledge because the Comforter sent in Christ's name resides within us as part of our unconscious influencing our intellect and behaviors - not very effectively for those like you who deliberately disbelieve in any such thing which is WHY you have trouble searching your heart for the Truth. You prefer your intellectual comprehension and reject any other source of influence thinking it can only be your personal conscience. There have been many avatars like Buddha, etc. who achieved some success in elevating their consciousness toward God's consciousness (again whether or not they knew it).
But prior to Jesus, we were not sufficiently evolved from the schoolmaster stage. At the time of Jesus, the fields were ripe for the harvest and Jesus was our species' "designated hitter" to make the permanent connection of human consciousness with God's consciousness - thus abrogating any responsibility for the rest of us to attain perfection (perfect resonance= IDENTITY). Jesus is our spiritual "tuning fork" to God and we need only achieve some level of harmonic resonance with His perfect agape love (Grace, again, whether or not we know it). It is easier and a lot better if we know it and it resonates with us but He is there either way.
Sure seems to me you are quite impressed with your ability to "connect" with whatever you feel connected with no different from how someone else might be impressed with their "mental capacities." You don't come off as humble in any of these respects either way, and that's fine. You believe what you do, strongly, just like pretty much everyone else who bothers with this forum. None of that really matters as compared to the WHY we believe what we do. Nothing wrong with accepting what we do not know far as I'm concerned either. I tend to feel we're a little short along those lines and a little long on making up the unknown, but about that too we all tend to take our different paths based on whatever makes the most sense to us all considered.
My path is away from this forum for the rest of the day. Perhaps until tomorrow. Cheers.
As long as you realize the symmetry of our ignorance does NOT allow you to pretend your atheist dogma of nonexistence is the default and then demand proof of the existence of God. That is pretending there is no ignorance about WHAT our Reality IS in favor of your preferred belief.
It has nothing to do with hearing about Jesus. It s a structural fact of our Reality that operates from within our consciousness wther or not we know about it. That is why it is so easily ignored. Making people aware of the Comofrter sent in Christ's name to guide us to the TRuth God has "Written in our hearts does help, but not as much as it should. And there it is - the atheist existence dogma - that you would pretend should be instantiated as the default and is why you reject and would banish my Christian panentheism religion.
in the first 10 minutes I think. Its your field.
how the universe works season 3 episode 4. "The first second" I think its called.
so much for no proof.
not that it matters to a group therapy relieving frustration on the internet.
Because Jesus connected the entire collective human consciousness to God consciousness with His human consciousness, period. It is a fait accompli nothing for us to do with it. But too many of us ignore the connection including those professing to be Christian. Atheists like I was have an excuse but the rest of God believers do not. Most like to credit themselves for any influence from God by calling it their conscience.
That makes no sense. What about the millions of people that lived on this earth prior to Jesus existence that believed in God? You are saying every person that does not believe in Jesus that can access God without believing in Jesus is because of Jesus? I thought that Jesus was the ONLY way to God? If Jesus is connected to God regardless of what you believe then what is the point of Christianity?
But didn't you just post... "Because Jesus connected the entire collective human consciousness to God consciousness with His human consciousness, period."
How is any of that supposed to happen if no one hears about Jesus? If nothing to do with hearing about Jesus, then why bother mentioning Him? I'm thinking the Buddha might at least be worth honorable mention, but I have to admit I'm having trouble reading what is written in my heart...
To me it sounds like stuff that is just made up. Just like my dragon in the garage connected the entire collective human consciousness to God consciousness with his Human consciousness. That is my REALITY
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