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Old 09-28-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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I am reposting the OP since the thread is derailed. I gave that post a lot of thought.
I hope you forgive me for derailing your thread.

I shared a lot of heart in my post. I have no desire to make anything cheap.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:43 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I hope you forgive me for derailing your thread.

I shared a lot of heart in my post. I have no desire to make anything cheap.
Thanks for "atoning" but it was not you. And FWIW I largely agree with your post. It is similar to G-d's reaction to Cain's killing of Abel. It was the denial more than the act that got Cain in trouble, since Abel may have given Cain ample reason to be furious.

Have an easy fast.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:49 AM
 
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Ask Adam and Eve why they were evicted from the Garden of Eden. It's the Yetzer Rah (sp).
Yetzer HaRa...
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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so Adam wasn't man enough, scum?
Apparently you aren't man enough to respect the opening poster.

Start a new thread if you want to discuss something else.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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Apparently you aren't man enough to respect the opening poster.

Start a new thread if you want to discuss something else.
Thanks.

Though I wrote the OP in about 15 minutes I put a lot of thought and love into the post.
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:27 AM
 
Location: TEXAS
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you gave your very own blood - your heart is golden! rep!
thanks for sharing all this detail with us!
I hadn't planned to fast today (i'm an ignorant gentile), but in solidarity I will now, at least in part. thx!

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Old 09-28-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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Thanks.

Though I wrote the OP in about 15 minutes I put a lot of thought and love into the post.
I saw that as you turned your attention from yourself, to God and others. The world needs more of that these days.

What was the first thing that happened after Adam and Eve ate that fruit. All of their attention was on themselves. And they couldn't see anything past themselves. In God's judgement on the serpent there, you will find the words, that open their eyes to see past themselves, to sharing life, having a child and atonement.
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Old 09-28-2020, 12:14 PM
 
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I saw that as you turned your attention from yourself, to God and others. The world needs more of that these days.

What was the first thing that happened after Adam and Eve ate that fruit. All of their attention was on themselves. And they couldn't see anything past themselves. In God's judgement on the serpent there, you will find the words, that open their eyes to see past themselves, to sharing life, having a child and atonement.
What do you mean by “having a child”?...
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Old 09-28-2020, 01:06 PM
 
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What do you mean by “having a child”?...
It says in judgement upon the serpent, that he will strike his heel and the seed of the woman will crush his head. The birth of a child. It changed all the focus of the moment, and gave them something to look forward to. God's blessing of; be fruitful and multiply did not die with them.
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Old 09-28-2020, 01:18 PM
 
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It says in judgement upon the serpent, that he will strike his heel and the seed of the woman will crush his head. The birth of a child. It changed all the focus of the moment, and gave them something to look forward to. God's blessing of; be fruitful and multiply did not die with them.
so why didn't he use the pouch system?
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