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Old 10-16-2020, 12:02 PM
 
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Love contains mercy; punishment does not. Good discipline is corrective and not punitive.
God does not punish.
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Old 10-16-2020, 04:22 PM
 
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God punishes by handing over a sinner or a person who is cursed by people and all who spiritually anyone who falls under a curse to the devil and demons spirits, but Then God will rejoice when a person who is bothered by a demon spirit overcomes of this demonic spirit through the grace of God .... See the grace of God come through the cross of Jesus Christ judgment for all sin that is forgiven ..... And people who go to hell is because they ignored or rejected God and His ways as God become one with His people and people do not become married to God would be lost as God has no purpose ...... See look at all the people that you could have married, and they reject you, do you have a plan for them after the fact … That is how God is
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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How can God be love mankind if he's going to torture most of mankind where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. That's not really love.
God loves to torture people.
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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God loves to torture people.
The OT version sure seems to enjoy it.

Which is why the greatest mistake Christianity made is forcing a marriage between the OT and the NT. And trying to convince rational people a couple of millennia later that Jesus and the psychotic war god of the OT were not only father and son - but the same person. (With a 3rd alter ego waiting in the wings for some Christians.)

Can't make that pill small enough, or enticing enough, or close to reality enough, for me to swallow.
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:17 PM
 
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The OT version sure seems to enjoy it.

Which is why the greatest mistake Christianity made is forcing a marriage between the OT and the NT. And trying to convince rational people a couple of millennia later that Jesus and the psychotic war god of the OT were not only father and son - but the same person. (With a 3rd alter ego waiting in the wings for some Christians.)

Can't make that pill small enough, or enticing enough, or close to reality enough, for me to swallow.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:52 PM
 
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The OT version sure seems to enjoy it.

Which is why the greatest mistake Christianity made is forcing a marriage between the OT and the NT. And trying to convince rational people a couple of millennia later that Jesus and the psychotic war god of the OT were not only father and son - but the same person. (With a 3rd alter ego waiting in the wings for some Christians.)

Can't make that pill small enough, or enticing enough, or close to reality enough, for me to swallow.
All talk. I judge people by the things they DO. You judge people by what you think they might believe.

I see nonbelievers of scripture doing bad things. Making bad choices. I see them changed and redeemed when they turn to the truth. There is only one conclusion any honest person can come to. Therefore a nonbeliever is always dishonest.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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All talk. I judge people by the things they DO. You judge people by what you think they might believe.

I see nonbelievers of scripture doing bad things. Making bad choices. I see them changed and redeemed when they turn to the truth. There is only one conclusion any honest person can come to. Therefore a nonbeliever is always dishonest.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-hate-n1243538
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:02 PM
 
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Your obsession with race has nothing to do with any of this.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:04 PM
 
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Fred (Mister) Rogers said a great thing in an interview once. He said that discipline is just as important as love.

Anyone who believes in a god of "pure love" and nothing else is someone that I would not trust to be alone with a child. I would not want to have anything to do with such a person. I could only pray for him.
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Your obsession with race has nothing to do with any of this.
I'm just linking you to a news story from this week.
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