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It is not a difficult concept, so I ask myself why some people do not get privilege. ...
I'll give you a good example of privilege. The school where I was principal was one of the top schools in my state (as in top 5-10%), and we had odd boundary lines that had been designed, at least in part, to bring balance to the school population in terms of race and income. We had power-broker parents (as in senators, an about-to-be vice president, an NFL superstar, and a governor and former 'first-daughter' of a president of the United States). We also had a couple of neighborhoods where there was Latino gang activity (although far from the worst in that region), and low income apartment that were primarily rented by Black families where both mother and father worked and, in some cases, held down two jobs.
We were a middle school, and at the end of the eighth grade year we held an eighth grade party (the school system did not allow middle school graduation parties). The eighth grade parties were what was then called "semi-formal", held in the school cafeteria, had a professional DJ, a classy level of refreshments, and separate rooms from the cafeteria for socializing and games. Always very pleasant. I was able to give out free tickets to students who were in the free lunch program, and half-price tickets to those on the reduced-price lunch program (although that was not generally known).
We were located in the Washington, D.C. area. And one spring a group of our parents came to me and said they had a proposal -- that the eighth grade party (just a simple 8th grade party) should that year be held in Oahu. There was not even an awareness on the part of these parents that we had poor kids in our school. They just assumed that everyone could afford to fly to Oahu and pay for a hotel for several days for a 3 hour party.
On the other hand, the number of times that I learned, and re-learned how needy some of students were never ceased to amaze me. Our school was approximately 7 miles from the White House. And I would sometimes get one or two of our teachers and we would drive -- in our own cars -- some of our needy students into D.C. for cultural experiences that they would not otherwise have. The first time I did that, three of us drove a dozen or so students down to see the lighting of the national Christmas tree. As we drove toward the White House, several of the students in my car exclaimed, "What is that!" I said, "That's the Washington Monument". 7 miles from D.C., and these kids had never gone down into the city because their parents couldn't afford the time due to working not one, but two jobs.
And yet we had parents who thought anyone could afford a trip to Hawaii. That's privilege. The total unawareness of how other people live and survive.
No, the exact quote was DD was always the "confrontational" one.
Note the quotes, especially in context of what was said.
The fact that you had to take the quote out of context is not only showing disrespect, it is your usual confrontational crusade against anybody who does not agree with you.
Should you be lecturing people on good manners when you lack them yourself?
I agree. "Confrontational" is often in the eye of the beholder.
Indoctrination and education used to be synonymous. Webster’s 1913 dictionary defines indoctrination as "instruction in the rudiments and principles of any science or system of belief." It was well into the 20th century before the word widely took on negative connotations. Today, although we know that indoctrination is bad, the concept is often fuzzily defined.
I think it has to be fuzzy. I don't think there is a distinct line in the sand.
In my school, we were required to do the Pledge on the morning announcements each day. That was indoctrination.
That was followed by announcements, and then my 'thought for the day'...a sort of uplifting thing (that we had actually purchased) that dealt with topics such as the Golden Rule. They were designed, however, to bridge cultures and show commonalities. I guess they bordered on indoctrination, but I would have been hard pressed to figure out what the concept was they were indoctrinating.
But this I cannot agree with or does it make sense to me.
Let me ask you, Diesel, if the human "mind of Jesus Christ" has all the characteristics of the "mind of God" and you wanted to tell this to our primitive ancestors (who knew nothing about "minds"), how would you say it? Would you say, "If you know Jesus, you know God?" How would they interpret that? Wouldn't they see that as a claim that Jesus IS God? In their primitive ignorance, wouldn't they create a bunch of jargon to explain this mystery?
Yes, it means 'thank you', but we use it to mean 'no thank you'. My English friend was once asked if he wanted another beer and said 'yes, thank you'. The waitress must have been confused and took the thank you to mean 'no, thank you', because when the next round came, he did not get a beer.
Could you explain what you think 'privileged' means in this context?
google it.
An atheist wont win, but they can run. "privrelge" is an attempt to shift responsibility of a person from what they are doing to what others owe them, via a guilt trip.
I'll give you a good example of privilege. The school where I was principal was one of the top schools in my state (as in top 5-10%), and we had odd boundary lines that had been designed, at least in part, to bring balance to the school population in terms of race and income. We had power-broker parents (as in senators, an about-to-be vice president, an NFL superstar, and a governor and former 'first-daughter' of a president of the United States). We also had a couple of neighborhoods where there was Latino gang activity (although far from the worst in that region), and low income apartment that were primarily rented by Black families where both mother and father worked and, in some cases, held down two jobs.
We were a middle school, and at the end of the eighth grade year we held an eighth grade party (the school system did not allow middle school graduation parties). The eighth grade parties were what was then called "semi-formal", held in the school cafeteria, had a professional DJ, a classy level of refreshments, and separate rooms from the cafeteria for socializing and games. Always very pleasant. I was able to give out free tickets to students who were in the free lunch program, and half-price tickets to those on the reduced-price lunch program (although that was not generally known).
We were located in the Washington, D.C. area. And one spring a group of our parents came to me and said they had a proposal -- that the eighth grade party (just a simple 8th grade party) should that year be held in Oahu. There was not even an awareness on the part of these parents that we had poor kids in our school. They just assumed that everyone could afford to fly to Oahu and pay for a hotel for several days for a 3 hour party.
On the other hand, the number of times that I learned, and re-learned how needy some of students were never ceased to amaze me. Our school was approximately 7 miles from the White House. And I would sometimes get one or two of our teachers and we would drive -- in our own cars -- some of our needy students into D.C. for cultural experiences that they would not otherwise have. The first time I did that, three of us drove a dozen or so students down to see the lighting of the national Christmas tree. As we drove toward the White House, several of the students in my car exclaimed, "What is that!" I said, "That's the Washington Monument". 7 miles from D.C., and these kids had never gone down into the city because their parents couldn't afford the time due to working not one, but two jobs.
And yet we had parents who thought anyone could afford a trip to Hawaii. That's privilege. The total unawareness of how other people live and survive.
none of this is a special right.
you can call them ignorant and insensitive, but there is no special right granted or removed.
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