Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-29-2020, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
28,097 posts, read 29,963,441 times
Reputation: 13123

Advertisements

When did you begin to exist?
When will you cease to exist?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-29-2020, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
31,373 posts, read 20,184,822 times
Reputation: 14070
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katzpur View Post
When did you begin to exist?
When will you cease to exist?
Hmmm...

When I became self-aware.

When I lose that awareness.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2020, 06:49 PM
 
22,178 posts, read 19,221,727 times
Reputation: 18308
always have been
always will be

no beginning, no end.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2020, 07:17 PM
 
9,345 posts, read 4,325,044 times
Reputation: 3023
The first question is the hardest to answer, upon conception or birth or as TroutDude says upon becoming self aware. As soon as I'm brain dead I will cease to exist except in the memories of others.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2020, 08:15 PM
 
22,178 posts, read 19,221,727 times
Reputation: 18308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katzpur View Post
When did you begin to exist?
When will you cease to exist?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutDude View Post
Hmmm...When I became self-aware.
When I lose that awareness.
but a person does not "cease to exist" when they are in a deep sleep. or when they are unconscious. or when they are in a coma.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2020, 08:25 PM
 
13,011 posts, read 13,047,890 times
Reputation: 21914
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel View Post
but a person does not "cease to exist" when they are in a deep sleep. or when they are unconscious. or when they are in a coma.
Physically, no. However, there is a gap in your mental existence in those states. You aren't thinking of anything, nor forming additional memories. If you never come out of a coma, and eventually die, it is virtually the same thing as ceasing to exist when the coma starts.

So for practical purposes, Trout's position is defensible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2020, 08:20 AM
 
9,345 posts, read 4,325,044 times
Reputation: 3023
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel View Post
but a person does not "cease to exist" when they are in a deep sleep. or when they are unconscious. or when they are in a coma.
However your claim is you existed long before the dinosaurs and will still exist when our Sun finally burns up and yet you nitpick some one else
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2020, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
88,580 posts, read 84,795,337 times
Reputation: 115100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katzpur View Post
When did you begin to exist?
When will you cease to exist?
Do you mean as the human being I am right now, or as a soul/entity?

Either way, the answer is "I really don't know."
__________________
Moderator posts are in RED.
City-Data Terms of Service: //www.city-data.com/terms.html
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2020, 08:21 AM
 
22,178 posts, read 19,221,727 times
Reputation: 18308
Quote:
Originally Posted by badlander View Post
However your claim is you existed long before the dinosaurs and will still exist when our Sun finally burns up and yet you nitpick some one else
i am simply making the observation that a person does not "cease to exist" when they go to sleep or are unconscious.
that is not "nitpicking." it is stating the obvious.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-30-2020, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Germany
16,774 posts, read 4,982,520 times
Reputation: 2113
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katzpur View Post
When did you begin to exist?
There is no specific beginning, but it was after 1980. I developed as a conscious entity, but there was no specific point in time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katzpur View Post
When will you cease to exist?
When I die.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:14 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top