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Old 12-03-2020, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Germany
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The main thing that religion gives is a sense of purpose in life. If you don't have a sense of purpose, you're less likely to do those healthy lifestyle habits in the first place.

Yes, you can get that through other means, in theory. Certainly true on on an inviditual level.

In practice, it works out badly when applied across societies at large. Most people have a deep need for something sacred in their lives. Jonathan Haidt talks about this. That's what Social Justice Warriors on college campuses are about.
So you are against social justice and equality.

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They're essentially non-religious / atheistic type people who have created a new religion that they are trying to impose on everyone else. They don't see they're just like the religions they often criticize.
So you are against using a dictionary.

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Look no further than the USSR & China for secular states that do/did massive killings.
So any group that is not religious is a religion that does mass killings.
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Old 12-03-2020, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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There seem to be a lot of folks out there who are unable to comprehend that atheism is not a belief system or religion. We simply do not believe your god exists. That's all. We are not a united force following a doctrine. We are absent of a doctrine. We have no theistic doctrine. Is that so hard to understand?

A lot of mention has been made on all the killings done in the name of atheism but just have a look at that book which is the topic of this thread - is it not an attempt to demonize and instill hatred toward atheists? And that by a religionist. Right? An example of religionist trying to kill atheists so to speak because that could be the end result.

Atheists do not go around getting worked up about what other people believe but this guy clearly is.

Religionists do indeed commit mass killings in the name of their religion. The Catholic Church is guilty of such atrocities and not for the sake of power. They already had power. They just used it to torture and murder groups whom they considered heretics or believers of other than Christianity.

One can look these up;
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State-sanctioned murder of Christians by pagans until Christianity became the official religion.
State-sanctioned murder of pagans by Christians until there were no more pagans left.
Of particular note are numerous massacres of pagans by Christian mobs in the fourth and fifth centuries CE.
The state in question was the Roman empire which was not atheist. It was pagan until it became Christian.

And by the way, Jesus was executed by religious folks - just not Christians.
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Old 12-06-2020, 07:14 PM
 
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what kills far more than any statement of belief about god?

the idea; the notion ... one simple well placed phrase.

"Ok, but just don't slow us down. We have the same goals."

neither atheism nor theism killed more than that simple phrase sold by, well, you know whos.
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Old 12-06-2020, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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This thread is a fine example of hate speech couched in the mealy-mouthed language used by snake oil salesmen, preachers, and politicians.
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Old 12-06-2020, 09:50 PM
 
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This thread is a fine example of hate speech couched in the mealy-mouthed language used by snake oil salesmen, preachers, and politicians.
I'm not allowed to give you a rep. Kaspur often suffers the same fate.
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:52 AM
 
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I'm not allowed to give you a rep. Kaspur often suffers the same fate.
yup, and the oil?

"ok, but just don't slow us down, we have the same goals."

or

"but look, we are fighting for your rights too."

or


"Don't you want a more fair and just life."

they all use them.
Snake oil in a jar of noble causes.
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:06 PM
 
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yup, and the oil?

"ok, but just don't slow us down, we have the same goals."

or

"but look, we are fighting for your rights too."

or


"Don't you want a more fair and just life."

they all use them.
Snake oil in a jar of noble causes.
I apologize, I have no understanding of what point you are making in this post
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Old 12-07-2020, 04:42 PM
 
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I apologize, I have no understanding of what point you are making in this post
No need to apologize.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:33 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I apologize, I have no understanding of what point you are making in this post
I do. They all rehash my quotes.
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No need to apologize.
I think there is, but I won't get one, will I?
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:25 PM
 
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No need to apologize.
Apologies are the Canadian past time, sorry
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