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I had always thought that the expression "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." was unnecessary hyperbole. However, having encountered you and the certainty of your arrogance, I begin to see its applicability. I hope you are not finished with your education. You seem to be missing a lot of worldly experience and knowledge about our Reality.
If you have something to demonstrate to add to world knowledge, please do so. However, such knowledge will come from reason and logic, not personal experience or emo-derived “extrapolations” of science according to your emotional fears and wants and needs.
Yes, but we haven’t even got a definition for a soul. While we know that there is no reason to believe in any form of immortality for any entity. So no, there is no such thing as an immortal soul................
I agree and l'd like to take the liberty to add that we do have the definition for soul as found at Genesis 2:7
Mortal Adam became a living person, a living soul, after God breathed the breath of life into life-less mortal Adam.
Mortal Adam was never offered immortality. Adam was only offered 'everlasting life on Earth' as long as he obeyed God.
I find in Scripture soul and spirit are Not anything you want.
After God breathed the 'breath of life' into life-less Adam 'then' Adam became a living soul or person - Genesis 2:7
At death Adam became a dead soul, a life-less soul or person.
Adam went from non-life, to life, and returned back to non-life - Genesis 3:19
A person can Not ' return' to a place he never was before. Adam returned to dust.
As with God's spirit (Psalms 104:30) our spirit is a neuter ' it ' and Nothing to do with being a spirit person (angel) - Job 33:4
And as at Ecclesiastes 12:7 B a neuter ' it ' .
This is mere citing of a religious book from one of the many religions in existence, which completely contradict logic, and each other.
Therefore, I reject any and all Scriptural cites as invalid, immaterial, and irrelevant to the acquisition or dissemination of useful and real knowledge.
When trying to describe and communicate reality and what actually exists, scripture is null and void. It’s just not a rational tool to arrive at what is true or real.
If you have something to demonstrate to add to world knowledge, please do so. However, such knowledge will come from reason and logic, not personal experience or emo-derived “extrapolations” of science according to your emotional fears and wants and needs.
Actually its you with the fear my man. Lets apply your theology to a real world example.
in terms of a soul, what is more logical.
we see only 5% of what we think we see in people. maybe its that 95% we don't see.
deny everything and claim logic is the answer
deny everything as say faith is not the answer.
Ha, the belief / faith game. You do not know, and what you believe goes against what we know. We know what is true for us until new information comes in. Pretending your position is equal to ours is as amusing as when the less intelligent Christians play this game.
i'd say that 92% of the world population engaging with, identifying with, being part of, participating in, either as a group (religion) or on their own individually (prayer) indicates they know what is known, and recognize that which you do not.
92% and growing is far greater in every way than 5% and shrinking (atheists).
that is a fact.
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I’m not pretending your faith has zero evidence, I am stating it as a plain fact. Personal experience is meaningless garbage. It has no explanatory power. It can be anything from delusion to some semblance of reality or anything in between. I give your personal experience zero weight. “Extrapolation” of science means pulling something out of your rectum. Again any assertion can be justified with an arbitrary proclamation that it is based on a personal “extrapolation” of science. Same as faith. Any claim can be based on faith. It is a meaningless basis to formulate a rational conclusion.
Observation, logic, and reason offer the most reliable path to knowledge. Faith is a non sequitur to achieving knowledge. The scientific method is the beginning, middle, and end of knowledge acquisition. And look how you threw out a phrase like “spiritual fossil record”. Again trying to gain secondhand legitimacy for useless faith by trying to associate it with a legitimate scientific technique (fossil record). Same technique as creationism. Make faith “sciencey” by garnishing it with pseudoscientific terminology. Unfortunately, that is nothing more than lipstick on a pig, and not a particularly attractive pig to boot. Until you can demonstrate your claims with hard and strong scientifically acquired evidence, you have zero, zilch, nada. I reject personal experience, and I reject so-called scientific “extrapolation”. There is only one supreme being of your life, and that is little old you. There is nothing more, nothing else, nothing bigger, nothing more powerful, and nothing in charge, or offering guidance. The meaning and purpose for your life comes 100% from you. And when you die, all of that, and all of you, ceases to exist and is gone forever.
and atheists wonder why people are staying away in droves.
see bold above
i'd say that 92% of the world population engaging with, identifying with, being part of, participating in, either as a group (religion) or on their own individually (prayer) indicates they know what is known, and recognize that which you do not.
92% and growing is far greater in every way than 5% and shrinking (atheists).
that is a fact.
Some wise sage once said: "Figures don't lie. But liars figure."
i'd say that 92% of the world population engaging with, identifying with, being part of, participating in, either as a group (religion) or on their own individually (prayer) indicates they know what is known, and recognize that which you do not.
92% and growing is far greater in every way than 5% and shrinking (atheists).
that is a fact.
You seem to forget that there is not a common belief among those 92%. Think I'm wrong? I suggest you go over to the mosque nearest you and start spreading your word.
You seem to forget that there is not a common belief among those 92%. Think I'm wrong? I suggest you go over to the mosque nearest you and start spreading your word.
what they have in common is identifying with religion or praying individually on their own.
they identify with the holy and sacred.
and it's often not the same "holy and sacred". As I say...take my challenge.
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