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You seem to miss the quality of 'emergence', such as taking a painting apart and finding no representation of anything. Put it back as it was, and it has a meaning.
no, what is actually different between me and you trans is that I can go "bigger" and ask "what emerges".
Unless we can say that the spirit of a person lives on in the memory of those who loved them.
I do wonder whether 'extra sensory perception' is a thing. If it is then something is going on outside of the brain. Well, brainwaves do produce fields that can be detected. On the surface of the skin anyway.
I had an experience in which this person 'read my mind'. He wasn't looking at me and was talking to the group. I was looking at him, waiting for a gap to say something expressing my thoughts when he turned to me and said the exact words I was thinking. He expressed my thoughts. Uncanny.
If that's what we are talking about then I wholly agree. The impact we have on those around us is our legacy. If we are talking of the deceased continuing to have experiences then that doesn't seem likely. Even more unlikely to me is that they remember or retain anything of their former self. I do take some comfort in the fact that I could be wrong.
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If that's what we are talking about then I wholly agree. The impact we have on those around us is our legacy. If we are talking out the deceased continuing to have experiences then that doesn't seem likely. Even more unlikely to me is that they remember or retain anything of their former self. I do take some comfort in the fact that I could be wrong.
Edit: that could just as easily be used for evidence that time is on a loop as it is for the soul. I hope not, I don't want to go through the same things again.
How does something that does not exist in this physical world move physical objects, one wonders? Co-ordinated dreams? Seems unlikely to be a simple coincidence. But I might be able to accept being able to influence or trigger dreams, but the cat's toy?
I can think of one possible mechanism by which the toy was moved and that is through influencing you to move it in your sleep. Be that as it may, it first requires the cat's consciousness to exist.
When I was about 3 I was sitting on the floor and saw a white dog walk through one wall of the living room and out again through the opposite wall. My mind instantly knew he was walking in a time the house wasn't there, either before or after. I had no fear of it. I didn't know about hallucinations then. Which seems more likely, that a 3-year-old understood space/time or that a 52-year-old understands hallucinations?
Sorry 303 I didn't mean to quote you. I was going to respond to you but then got side tracked.
Edit: that could just as easily be used for evidence that time is on a loop as it is for the soul. I hope not, I don't want to go through the same things again.
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Originally Posted by 303Guy
Interesting.
How does something that does not exist in this physical world move physical objects, one wonders? Co-ordinated dreams? Seems unlikely to be a simple coincidence. But I might be able to accept being able to influence or trigger dreams, but the cat's toy?
I can think of one possible mechanism by which the toy was moved and that is through influencing you to move it in your sleep. Be that as it may, it first requires the cat's consciousness to exist.
Curious.
And yes, it is indeed of interest.
I live on a mountain...a 1/2 mile long driveway up to the chalet.
The toy was put away when she passed...it hadn't been touched since.
It was not there in the morning when I walked back & forth over that very spot to the table to have breakfast.
No way to miss it...it is a 8 ft long dayglow strand of end-knoted rope, attached to a 4 ft long bright pink 1/4 inch rod.
I'd been outside working...no one else around.
No "person" was even on the scene to put it there.
When I was about 3 I was sitting on the floor and saw a white dog walk through one wall of the living room and out again through the opposite wall. My mind instantly knew he was walking in a time the house wasn't there, either before or after. I had no fear of it. I didn't know about hallucinations then. Which seems more likely, that a 3-year-old understood space/time or that a 52-year-old understands hallucinations?
Sorry 303 I didn't mean to quote you. I was going to respond to you but then got side tracked.
to say everything seen by the mind's eye is a hallucination
cripples a person from ever developing, using, and benefiting from their mind's eye.
i'd say the 3-year old is a lot clearer, smarter, and wiser than the 52-year old,
regarding question posed and scenario described above.
When I was about 3 I was sitting on the floor and saw a white dog walk through one wall of the living room and out again through the opposite wall. My mind instantly knew he was walking in a time the house wasn't there, either before or after. I had no fear of it. I didn't know about hallucinations then. Which seems more likely, that a 3-year-old understood space/time or that a 52-year-old understands hallucinations?
Sorry 303 I didn't mean to quote you. I was going to respond to you but then got side tracked.
If you think about that a 3 year old doesn't really know the difference between a dream and what is real like a 52 year old ... then you know it wasn't an hallucination, as we use the word that is.
to say everything seen by the mind's eye is a hallucination
cripples a person from ever developing, using, and benefiting from their mind's eye.
i'd say the 3-year old is a lot clearer, smarter, and wiser than the 52-year old,
regarding question posed and scenario described above.
Both choices are valid.
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