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Old 12-19-2020, 12:48 PM
 
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You're wrong.
Atheism isn't anti religion. It isn't even anti-god for that matter - another common misconception.
Atheism just means disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

It's true that there are atheists that are anti-religion of course.
In the same way that there are Christians that are anti-Islam for example. Does that mean that Christianity is anti-Islam?
Of course not.
They're all distinctly different mindsets.
There are all kinds of atheists the same as there are all kinds of theists and it's wrong to lump them all together.

As to this forum, it's a discussion group about Religion and Spirituality. That means we can discuss all aspects of the subject matter, warts and all, from all perspectives.
Nowhere does it say, 'those that enter here may only discuss and worship only positive aspects of Religion and Spirituality.'
If it were, you wouldn't be here for a start.
You primary reason for being here appears to be to bash atheism.
And you have tons of fun with it.
You wouldn't want a boring echo chamber.

If I did not believe in unicorns, I would not be interested in a Unicorn Groupie festival, would I?

I may be curious about their beliefs but I would not go into that forum to ridicule why the believe what they believe. Why would I do that?

You don't have to Atheist to be anti-religion. I am not an atheist and I am very much against organized religion because there is not one that is not misogynist, corruptible, and politicized. But this is hardly the place for activism against religion. Take it to your legislators where you have a chance to mitigate the evils of organized religion with policy. What would be the purpose of taking it out in R&S? All it does is derail perfectly good threads of discussion.
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was seeing if your post held up under other conditions and it did so I agreed with it.
Ok
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Canada
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If I did not believe in unicorns, I would not be interested in a Unicorn Groupie festival, would I?

I may be curious about their beliefs but I would not go into that forum to ridicule why the believe what they believe. Why would I do that?

You don't have to Atheist to be anti-religion. I am not an atheist and I am very much against organized religion because there is not one that is not misogynist, corruptible, and politicized. But this is hardly the place for activism against religion. Take it to your legislators where you have a chance to mitigate the evils of organized religion with policy. What would be the purpose of taking it out in R&S? All it does is derail perfectly good threads of discussion.


Atheist Activism Tip #1:
If Christian influence in politics, law and education is actually the issue you are addressing, it would be more effective to focus your effort on people of influence in those areas, rather than random strangers on the internet.

(*If your ‘activism’ is not concerned with actually being effective and accomplishing your stated goals, at least be honest about what is truly motivating you.)
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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no way katz. Not with stop religion in the united states as the primary goal for a lot of people and therapy.

...
I feel the need to pin you down a bit here.

What I bolded...who are these people?

Who among us on this forum has suggested that personal worship should be outlawed?
Who among us on this forum has suggested that churches should be closed?
Who among us on this forum has suggested that people should not be able to pray in their home or in their church, or in their mind, or otherwise privately?
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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I feel the need to pin you down a bit here.

What I bolded...who are these people?

Who among us on this forum has suggested that personal worship should be outlawed?
Who among us on this forum has suggested that churches should be closed?
Who among us on this forum has suggested that people should not be able to pray in their home or in their church, or in their mind, or otherwise privately?
phet ... address what I said .... if your primary goal is to stop religion in the united states and/or you are here for therapeutic release, it just adds needles noise to the conversations and in reality, shouldn't even be in the forum.

freedom from religion is exactly like NRA. they are the same type of people.
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:52 PM
 
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Atheist Activism Tip #1:
If Christian influence in politics, law and education is actually the issue you are addressing, it would be more effective to focus your effort on people of influence in those areas, rather than random strangers on the internet.

(*If your ‘activism’ is not concerned with actually being effective and accomplishing your stated goals, at least be honest about what is truly motivating you.)
yuppers.

stopping in religion in the united states and an outlet for people recovering from themselves really should have its own sub forum. I probably wouldn't even go there. But at least it would be honest.
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Old 12-19-2020, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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phet ... address what I said .... if your primary goal is to stop religion in the united states and/or you are here for therapeutic release, it just adds needles noise to the conversations and in reality, shouldn't even be in the forum.

freedom from religion is exactly like NRA. they are the same type of people.

Who are these people? I'm not seeing any significant number of people who want to outlaw religion in the United States.
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Old 12-19-2020, 02:02 PM
 
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Who are these people? I'm not seeing any significant number of people who want to outlaw religion in the United States.
phet ... its a given you don't see anything you don't want to.

just address what I said.
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Old 12-19-2020, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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If I did not believe in unicorns, I would not be interested in a Unicorn Groupie festival, would I?

I may be curious about their beliefs but I would not go into that forum to ridicule why the believe what they believe. Why would I do that?

You don't have to Atheist to be anti-religion. I am not an atheist and I am very much against organized religion because there is not one that is not misogynist, corruptible, and politicized. But this is hardly the place for activism against religion. Take it to your legislators where you have a chance to mitigate the evils of organized religion with policy. What would be the purpose of taking it out in R&S? All it does is derail perfectly good threads of discussion.
You completely mis- comprehended my post and clearly didn't read it properly.
Have another go.
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Old 12-19-2020, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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phet ... its a given you don't see anything you don't want to.

just address what I said.
Never mind, Arach. You are refusing to answer a simple question. This is what you do almost every time.
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