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Old 12-31-2020, 03:54 PM
 
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Do you know everything there is to know?
I know enough to know that religion is a sick perverted LIE, soup to nuts. And I don't get my knowledge from a collection of writings thousands of years old, written in an age of ignorance and fear.
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Do you know everything there is to know?
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I know enough to know that religion is a sick perverted LIE, soup to nuts. And I don't get my knowledge from a collection of writings thousands of years old, written in an age of ignorance and fear.
So, no. Just your opinion.
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:11 PM
 
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So, no. Just your opinion.
No, a conclusion, based on observation of facts. A point you sadly miss....completely.


Facts, BTW, are the last thing believers want to deal with, for they are toxic to their fairy tale.
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:34 PM
 
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No, a conclusion, based on observation of facts. A point you sadly miss....completely.


Facts, BTW, are the last thing believers want to deal with, for they are toxic to their fairy tale.
Remember, you admitted not knowing everything.
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:50 PM
 
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Let me give you a sample of the sort of nonsense believers swallow that makes me certain that is all a lie.
Adam and Eve. I will couch the story in terms that accent the stupidity of what is contained in the fable.



Okay, god make Adam and Eve, he is wholly and totally responsible for every aspect of their existence. Strengths, weakness, etc. they being the sole creation of their creator, played, and could NOT have played any role whatsoever in their creation.


Along the way god installs in them a flawed decision-making protocol called Free Will. A protocol perfectly capable of making bad decisions. Again, god, not Adam or Eve, created and installed Free Will.


Furthermore, god being all-knowing knows what is going to happen ahead of time.


God puts Adam and Eve in the Garden or Eden and tells them not to eat the Apple (or orange, or whatever it was), knowing ahead of time what is going to happen.



He goes as far as to send a snake to further tempt them to eat the fruit (or nuts or whatever), again, with full fore-knowledge of what was going to happen. .



One day, A and E, being wholly the creation of their creator succumb (due to the weakness and susceptibility to temptation their creator saddled them with) to the temptation god put before them, and ate the kumquat (or whatever it was), whereupon god condemned them, and all future people to a hellish existence and would judge each one how they would conduct themselves, knowing full well with foreknowledge how each and every one would fare. Those that failed to get the right box tops went to hell.


And you want to spend all eternity with an SOB that slammed A & E, as well as all who followed, like that. Talk about insanity.


You pray and worship such an a-hole? Really? Sounds more like a demon to me.
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:52 PM
 
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Remember, you admitted not knowing everything.
I know a Universe more than you do. And I am not intimidated by a fear of mortality that you are.



AND, I could say the same back at you!!
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Old 12-31-2020, 05:00 PM
 
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Let me give you a sample of the sort of nonsense believers swallow that makes me certain that is all a lie.
Adam and Eve. I will couch the story in terms that accent the stupidity of what is contained in the fable.



Okay, god make Adam and Eve, he is wholly and totally responsible for every aspect of their existence. Strengths, weakness, etc. they being the sole creation of their creator, played, and could NOT have played any role whatsoever in their creation.


Along the way god installs in them a flawed decision-making protocol called Free Will. A protocol perfectly capable of making bad decisions. Again, god, not Adam or Eve, created and installed Free Will.


Furthermore, god being all-knowing knows what is going to happen ahead of time.


God puts Adam and Eve in the Garden or Eden and tells them not to eat the Apple (or orange, or whatever it was), knowing ahead of time what is going to happen.



He goes as far as to send a snake to further tempt them to eat the fruit (or nuts or whatever), again, with full fore-knowledge of what was going to happen. .



One day, A and E, being wholly the creation of their creator succumb (due to the weakness and susceptibility to temptation their creator saddled them with) to the temptation god put before them, and ate the kumquat (or whatever it was), whereupon god condemned them, and all future people to a hellish existence and would judge each one how they would conduct themselves, knowing full well with foreknowledge how each and every one would fare. Those that failed to get the right box tops went to hell.


And you want to spend all eternity with an SOB that slammed A & E, as well as all who followed, like that, . Talk about insanity.


You pray and worship such as a-hole? Really. Sounds more like a demon to me.
I’m getting the impression you would reject the God of the Bible even if you were somehow convinced of His existence. Is that accurate?
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Old 12-31-2020, 05:05 PM
 
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I know a Universe more than you do. And I am not intimidated by a fear of mortality that you are.



AND, I could say the same back at you!!
How so?
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Old 12-31-2020, 05:29 PM
 
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I’m getting the impression you would reject the God of the Bible even if you were somehow convinced of His existence. Is that accurate?
If he existed, I would demand he reduce himself to a human and then execute him, after decades of torture, for Crimes Against Humanity (and the Animal Kingdom as well). And the sentence would be richly-deserved.


However, since the alleged defendant does not exist, it is mother nature at the dock.
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Old 12-31-2020, 05:31 PM
 
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How so?
Because the only knowledge you articulate is the recitation of shop-worn, nonsensical biblical passages and little else. You say nothing original.



You are, with all due respect, but a parrot in this arena.


But, to be hair, it isn't just you, it is ALL believers spouting the same nonsense.

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