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Old 12-22-2008, 10:58 PM
 
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Anyone know of some contradictions in the Bible that bother them.

I for one don't understand why the Genealogies of Jesus in both Matthew and Luke end with Joseph instead of Mary. Since Joseph is not Jesus's father, aren't these genealogies derailed?

There are also separate accounts of where and when the wise men visited Jesus in Matthew and Luke.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:53 PM
 
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Here's one:

Genesis 38:8-10
And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

Leviticus 20:21
And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:58 PM
 
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Again the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.II Samuel 24:1



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Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel. I Chronicles 21:1


This is really only a contradiction because it reflects theological evolution of Jewish thought as they moved from attributing all things to God, whether good or evil, to assigning all things evil to the character known as Satan.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:07 AM
 
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Here's one:

Genesis 38:8-10
And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

Leviticus 20:21
And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.

The answer you might get to this is that the law came afterwards. In other words, Onan cannot be judged by a law that came into effect years later uder Moses. Apparently God picked a particular time in history to make some things illegal.
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:14 AM
 
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Here's one:

Genesis 38:8-10
And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

Leviticus 20:21
And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.
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The answer you might get to this is that the law came afterwards. In other words, Onan cannot be judged by a law that came into effect years later uder Moses. Apparently God picked a particular time in history to make some things illegal.
I do not think the law was changed but if you look at the penalty - they shall be childless - seems to still support the fornication of sister in law if brother died before making her pregnant. I think the Levitical law inferred while brother is still alive which is adultery hence that deed would be covered by another law.

IMO the Levitical laws were man-made as they do contradict the Royal law (10 commandments).

Thus I wonder in today's time, how a wife would feel if her husband went to fornicate with his dead brother's wife who is childless?

The Levitical law is only convenient in addressing gays as divorce (primarily as a result of extra-marital relations) gets a pass in today's society and no one would dare stone their kids for disobedience.

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I really wonder how these laws were enforced? "king-dumb kops" or sex police
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:25 AM
 
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Here's a contradiction between the bible and reality:

Matthew 21:22
If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."


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Old 12-23-2008, 01:34 AM
 
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Here's a contradiction between the bible and reality:

Matthew 21:22
If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."
That one is easy.

If it is God's will you get it, if you don't it is not His will. [/fundie]
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:35 AM
 
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Here's one:

Genesis 38:8-10
And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

Leviticus 20:21
And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.

that's been explained and handled. dude was dead...can't really be married when he's dead, right?

In that time, if your brother died, you got the wife--and your responsibility was to give her/him an heir. That's why the pharisees asked Jesus the question of a woman that married a man who died...so she went to his brother...on up the line to 7 of them. Their question was who's wife she was.


If the Bible was nothing more than a forgery by men, do you think they're that stupid to miss that?
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:48 AM
 
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that's been explained and handled. dude was dead...can't really be married when he's dead, right?

In that time, if your brother died, you got the wife--and your responsibility was to give her/him an heir. That's why the pharisees asked Jesus the question of a woman that married a man who died...so she went to his brother...on up the line to 7 of them. Their question was who's wife she was.


If the Bible was nothing more than a forgery by men, do you think they're that stupid to miss that?
On a side note, I find it interesting that if a man does what Onan did today, as low as it might be to be sleeping with your dead brother's wife, the idea that he does not compound the problem by impregnating her would get him labeled "responsible." In the early Old Testament, he gets a death warrant from God.

One of the more ridiculous, fabricated stories to reinforce social customs I know of in the bible.
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:52 AM
 
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It seems the men who wrote the bible messed up on a lot of stuff..I don't think they were the sharpest tools in the shed.

Who is the father of Joseph?

MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
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