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Old 02-25-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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Sure, Bubba. I guess we're done here.
Done??!! You never started.
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:46 AM
 
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Just curious if any theists can answer this. Any claim in science, right or wrong, has religion come up with a BETTER answer to the claim?
I'm curious why some atheists have a viewpoint that religion and science are competitors.

They're not

They answer different questions

Even learned men from centuries ago knew this

"The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go."-Galileo Galilei
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:07 AM
 
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I'm curious why some atheists have a viewpoint that religion and science are competitors.

They're not

They answer different questions

Even learned men from centuries ago knew this

"The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go."-Galileo Galilei
Except religion has to change it's answers because of what science finds. A constantly changing 'truth' is not a real truth.
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:29 AM
 
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I'm curious why some atheists have a viewpoint that religion and science are competitors.

They're not

They answer different questions

Even learned men from centuries ago knew this

"The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go."-Galileo Galilei
Religion seems to change answers and do things to meet its statement of belief about god. Look at how you defend your faith and look to see if any atheist use the same line of logic.

I dont know what religion you follow but ...

"died and rose for our sins.", if I can get a person to believe that I have them right where I want them. I just need to find the trigger point that lead them down that path and use it again.

"salvation through love, compassion, understanding, and forgiveness." Science will support that. I think, I haven't looked but I bet it would. You can even believe in some thing. Like a living universe and believe it. There are plenty of science people that would be ok with that. Even if they say "I don't think so yet."

"The only way to salvation is through Jesus died and rose for our sins". Literally? Absolutely not. I make a positive claim that did not happen.
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Old 02-27-2021, 07:55 AM
 
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Except religion has to change it's answers because of what science finds. A constantly changing 'truth' is not a real truth.
Careful, Harry. Read differently it is awkward. "Except science has to change its answers because of what science finds. A constantly changing 'truth' is not a real truth." See the problem?
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Old 02-27-2021, 08:17 AM
 
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Careful, Harry. Read differently it is awkward. "Except science has to change its answers because of what science finds. A constantly changing 'truth' is not a real truth." See the problem?
yup. They take "lack belief", its not really lack belief, to an almost mythical level. They are fighting "something" using a statement of belief about god. That's why its a fail.

Science is changings its answers. All the time. That is a good thing.
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Old 02-27-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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I'm curious why some atheists have a viewpoint that religion and science are competitors.

They're not

They answer different questions

Even learned men from centuries ago knew this

"The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go."-Galileo Galilei

Because some theists try to deny certain parts of science when science doesn't fit their religious beliefs.
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Old 02-27-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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Default Has religion ever come up with a better answer than science?

They aren't addressing the same questions.
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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Because some theists try to deny certain parts of science when science doesn't fit their religious beliefs.
Hey ... more proof that atheist and theist do have similar thought process. stop any data that doesn't support their beliefs. lmao ... I totally get running away. Some atheist and theist have to do it or they think they will ... l
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:24 PM
 
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Because some theists try to deny certain parts of science when science doesn't fit their religious beliefs.
You mean like you and the atheists here are doing with the so-called "natural" evidence?

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Hey ... more proof that atheist and theist do have similar thought process. stop any data that doesn't support their beliefs. lmao ... I totally get running away. Some atheist and theist have to do it or they think they will ... l
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